2017 500 EXC-F and 350 EXC-F

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  1. noahr

    noahr Been here awhile

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    The all new version of the bikes have been officially announced!


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    2017 KTM 350 EXC-F
    You don’t just become the best seller. You have to earn it, and the KTM 350 EXC-F has done just that - with mud, sweat and gears. The power-to-weight ratio of the new 349.7 cc DOHC engine is spot on for any terrain and situation thanks to a new compact design, lightened camshafts, shorter connecting rod and 42mm throttle Keihin throttle body. Match that engine with an all-new chassis fitted with WP Xplor Suspension and the 350 EXC-F will answer the call no matter the terrain or how difficult the trail gets.

    Highlights:

    • NEW 350 EXC-F engine has been redesigned in order to make the new powerplant more compact and lighter while delivering class-leading torque and power figures over the entire rev range
    • NEW Cylinder head with lightened camshafts, DLC coated finger followers and a reworked timing drive for outstanding power throughout the 12,800 rpm rev range
    • NEW 6mm Shorter connecting rod for a vertically compact engine with snappy response
    • NEW Engine cases with a centralized shaft configuration, moving the crankshaft closer to the bike’s center of gravity while shortening the engine by 20mm.
    • NEW Engine covers feature an advanced surface structure to reduce wear for the rider’s boots
    • NEW 42mm Keihin throttle body for instant throttle response and crisp fueling
    • NEW 6-speed wide ratio transmission is perfectly suited for off-road duty
    • NEW Hydraulically operated DDS clutch features a damping system for better traction and durability
    • NEW Lightweight Chromoly steel frame provides high torsional rigidity with less longitudinal stiffness resulting in excellent handling and energy absorption
    • NEW WP Xplor 48 upside-down split front fork has outstanding damping characteristics and better bottoming resistance with less weight
    • NEW WP Xplor PDS rear suspension is more progressive and is lighter
    • NEW shock mounting geometry is matched to the new swingarm with a more centered location for nearly symmetrical loads to the swing arm
    • NEW Forged aluminum triple clamp with handlebar positions and a 22mm offset for precise handling
    • NEW ODI grips that feature a lock-on design for the left grip and a vulcanized grip on the throttle side
    • NEW 10mm longer rear brake pedal, smaller rear brake piston and lighter disks provide class leading brake performance and feel
    • NEW “No Dirt” footpeg design keeps the pegs pivot from becoming clogged, ensuring the footpeg is always in the correct position.
    • NEW CNC machined hubs, high-end Giant rims and Continental TKC-80 tires for maximum strength and traction on and off the road
    • NEW Airbox and filter design provides maximum performance with fast “no tools” air filter changes
    • NEW Bodywork with perfect ergonomics and contact points for maximum control and comfort
    • NEW Cooling system features stiffer radiators with better cooling efficiency while new radiator guards provide crash protection
    • NEW 2.25 gallon see-through polyethylene tank provides the range needed for extended rides
    • NEW “No Dirt” shift lever prevents dirt from fouling the lever joint to ensure proper shifting in any condition
    Specifications
    Engine Type: Single Cylinder, 4-Stroke
    Displacement: 349.7 cc
    Bore/Stroke: 88 / 57.5 mm
    Starter: Electric, Lithium Ion 12 V 2 Ah
    Transmission: 6 Gears, wide ratio
    Fuel System: Keihin EFI, 42 mm
    Lubrication: Pressure Lubrication with 2 Pumps
    Primary Ratio: 24:73
    Final Drive: 14:52
    Cooling: Liquid Cooling
    Clutch: Wet Multi-Disc DD-Clutch, Brembo Hydraulics
    Ignition: Keihin EMS
    Frame: Central Double-Cradle Type 25CrMo4 Steel
    Subframe: Aluminum
    Handlebar: Neken, Aluminum Ø 28/22mm
    Front Suspension: WP Xplor USD Ø 48mm
    Rear Suspension: WP Xplor PDS Monoshock
    Suspension Travel Front/Rear: 300 mm/11.8 in; 310 mm/12.2 in
    Front/Rear Brakes: Disc Brake 260 mm; 220 mm
    Front/Rear Rims: 1.60 x 21”, 2.15 x 18” Giant
    Front/Rear Tires: 90/90-21”; 120/100-18” Continental TKC-80
    Chain: 5/8 x 1/4 in
    Silencer: Aluminum
    Steering Head Angle: 26.5º
    Triple Clamp Offset: 22 mm
    Wheelbase: 1,482mm ± 10 mm / 58.3 ± 0.4 in
    Ground Clearance: 370mm / 14.6 in
    Seat Height: 960 mm / 37.8 in
    Tank Capacity, Approx: 8.5 L / 2.25 gal
    Weight (without fuel), Approx: 107.5 kg / 237 lbs

    2017 KTM 500 EXC-F
    Powered by an all-new 510.4 cc SOHC engine, the 2017 KTM 500 EXC-F has no equal in the dual sport realm. This compact powerhouse is fitted in an all-new lightweight chassis suspended with the latest WP-developed Xplor fork and shock for the ultimate in handling and control. With enough power and torque to dominate the trail and eat up miles mixed with a READY TO RACE chassis, the 500 EXC-F is free of compromise.

    Highlights:

    • NEW 500 EXC-F engine has been redesigned in order to be the most compact and lightest 500 cc on the market
    • NEW Cylinder head with a redesigned combustion chamber, optimized intake and exhaust ports and a new overhead camshaft
    • NEW Engine cases with a centralized shaft configuration, moving the crankshaft up 7mm and back 9mm to be closer to the bike’s center of gravity
    • NEW Engine covers feature an advanced surface structure to reduce wear for the rider’s boots
    • NEW 42mm Keihin throttle body for instant throttle response and crisp fueling
    • NEW 6-speed wide ratio transmission is perfectly suited for off-road duty
    • NEW Hydraulically operated DDS clutch features a damping system for better traction and durability
    • NEW Lightweight Chromoly steel frame provides high torsional rigidity with less longitudinal stiffness resulting in excellent handling and energy absorption
    • NEW WP Xplor 48 upside-down split front fork has outstanding damping characteristics and better bottoming resistance with less weight
    • NEW WP Xplor PDS rear suspension is more progressive and is lighter
    • NEW shock mounting geometry is matched to the new swingarm with a more centered location for nearly symmetrical loads to the swing arm
    • NEW Forged aluminum triple clamp with handlebar positions and a 22mm offset for precise handling
    • NEW ODI grips that feature a lock-on design for the left grip and a vulcanized grip on the throttle side
    • NEW 10mm longer rear brake pedal, smaller rear brake piston and lighter disks provide class leading brake performance and feel
    • NEW “No Dirt” footpeg design keeps the pegs pivot from becoming clogged, ensuring the footpeg is always in the correct position.
    • NEW CNC machined hubs, high-end Giant rims and Continental TKC-80 tires for maximum strength and traction on and off the road
    • NEW Airbox and filter design provides maximum performance with fast “no tools” air filter changes
    • NEW Bodywork with perfect ergonomics and contact points for maximum control and comfort
    • NEW Cooling system features stiffer radiators with better cooling efficiency while new radiator guards provide crash protection
    • NEW 2.25 gallon see-through polyethylene tank provides the range needed for extended rides
    • NEW “No Dirt” shift lever prevents dirt from fouling the lever joint to ensure proper shifting in any condition
    Specifications:
    Engine Type: Single Cylinder, 4-Stroke
    Displacement: 510.4 cc
    Bore/Stroke: 95 / 72 mm
    Starter: Electric, Lithium Ion 12 V 2 Ah
    Transmission: 6 Gears, wide ratio
    Fuel System: Keihin EFI, 42 mm
    Lubrication: Pressure Lubrication with 2 Pumps
    Primary Ratio: 31:76
    Final Drive: 14:45
    Cooling: Liquid Cooling
    Clutch: Wet Multi-Disc DD-Clutch, Brembo Hydraulics
    Ignition: Keihin EMS
    Frame: Central Double-Cradle Type 25CrMo4 Steel
    Subframe: Aluminum
    Handlebar: Neken, Aluminum Ø 28/22mm
    Front Suspension: WP Xplor USD Ø 48mm
    Rear Suspension: WP Xplor PDS Monoshock
    Suspension Travel Front/Rear: 300 mm/11.8 in; 310 mm/12.2 in
    Front/Rear Brakes: Disc Brake 260 mm; 220 mm
    Front/Rear Rims: 1.60 x 21”, 2.15 x 18” Giant
    Front/Rear Tires: 90/90-21”; 120/100-18” Continental TKC-80
    Chain: 5/8 x 1/4 in
    Silencer: Aluminum
    Steering Head Angle: 26.5º
    Triple Clamp Offset: 22 mm
    Wheelbase: 1,482mm ± 10 mm / 58.3 ± 0.4 in
    Ground Clearance: 370mm / 14.6 in
    Seat Height: 960 mm / 37.8 in
    Tank Capacity, Approx: 8.5 L / 2.25 gal
    Weight (without fuel), Approx: 109kg / 240.3 lbs
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  2. noahr

    noahr Been here awhile

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    Seems like all of us in North America will be getting TKC-80 tires, not true off road tires like the Euro bikes. Lame. First thing i'll be swapping out.
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  3. oldoval

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    Want. :tb
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  4. SnipTheDog

    SnipTheDog Been here awhile

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    These will hit the dealerships in June?
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  5. DesertRatliff

    DesertRatliff Tinker Tinker Ride Ride

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    Looks like the big changes are the suspenders, a slightly different frame and big overhaul for the 350 motor and a slight revision for the 500. Now there's no kicker back-up for either bike. Not a deal breaker for me, but unless the new suspension is truly revolutionary, I will be keeping my 2016 for a few seasons to come and practicing a kick start every now and then...just because...you know...it's there.
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  6. noahr

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    My dealership said late summer, but I'm in Canada we tend to get bikes slightly later then the US.
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  7. noahr

    noahr Been here awhile

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    Ktm is claiming these bikes have 90% all new parts
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  8. 52xc

    52xc Been here awhile

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    No kickstart. No thanks(unless i never plan on taking it in the boonies)
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  9. noahr

    noahr Been here awhile

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    Kinda sucks but you can add one from the hard parts catalog. Did you know if your battery is totally dead you actually can't kick you bike over?
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  10. SnipTheDog

    SnipTheDog Been here awhile

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    Sure, but if you blow a fuse or bin it and cause a connection problem then kicker should be able to get you out of a jam.
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  11. noahr

    noahr Been here awhile

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    True. Never thought of that.
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  12. AKScott

    AKScott Adventurer

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    Like others have said, the no-kick starter for me stinks a bit. Seems like they are trying to drop weight as much as possible (awesome) but not sure it is always worth the trade off. Wonder how long until we seem them up here in Alaska.
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  13. 52xc

    52xc Been here awhile

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    yup. I am just paranoid as I have ridden 30 years offroad and seen it all. I have a kick start on my 16 500 exc. Also carry a micro jumpstart and tow rope. lol
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  14. CanadianX

    CanadianX Oh!? That is deep.

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    Didn't come from a kickstart gen or genre. Put thousands of km off road without having ever kicked over the 500 and didn't have one on the 690 so I can't say I'm fussed one way or the other. Can't see me selling or trading my '15 any time but nice to know KTM is making incremental changes. Not 100% in love with the plastics/colors. New Husky...mmm now thats nice color scheme.

    EDIT: On a recent trip I neglected to turn the key off while setting up camp and killed the battery. Let it sit over night and the battery came up enough to prime the pump and I was able to kick start the bike. So I've used it now and was grateful to have it. Also had the option of a compact battery booster so still ok with not having a kickstart, still not giving up my 2015 anytime soon.
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  15. OrangeYZ

    OrangeYZ Long timer

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    Yeah, but there's a lot of room between "Dead enough to not crank over fast enough to start" and "So dead that kickstarting won't work."
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  16. shrederscott

    shrederscott Long timer

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    10 k and goto pay extra for a kick start.

    umm......thats not right

    Scott
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  17. wizze

    wizze Wizze = Wise

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    I've used the kicker after leaving the key on and also forgetting to unplug my GPS. With running a Rekluse a kicker is a necessity. The plastic is fugly but an easy fix. I like orange but a bit much! Maybe say screw it and get the Six Days. Or wait til 2018 and see if there any bugs the beta testers work out for KTM?
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  18. Rf928

    Rf928 n00b

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    Put a freaking link on it!!! I was really hoping for link + AER 48. Just looking at it I think KTM is marketing it as more of a true dual sport than a road legal dirt bike as in years past.

    Now if I can find a 16 for $11 otd...... I can buy a brand new YZ250X AND DR650, AND gear for both for what a new 500 costs. Geez.
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  19. wizze

    wizze Wizze = Wise

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    only $400 more than 16 so whats the difference? A LOT! So who will be the guinea pig?
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  20. oregonlmd

    oregonlmd Dirt,street,its all good.

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    If the issue is as you state, and not a dead battery, then yes, the kicker will save the day. If the issue is that the battery is totally dead, then there's no way to start it via the kicker. Unless you're prepared for such an eventuality in this manner: there's a capacitor you can carry that with just a few kicks with it hooked up to the battery leads will charge enough to then dis-charge enough juice to fire off the ECU and allow the bike to start and run (thence charging the dead battery, hopefully). I've got my '14 350 set up with this for just-in-case.
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