2017 GSA pricing? Deals?

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by Adam E, Sep 9, 2017.

  1. Adam E

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    Howdy All-

    I'm toying with the idea of picking up a 2017 GS Adventure. I started looking when there was the $1000 rebate, and of course that vanished into thin air. :lol3

    I visited one dealer, asked if he'd be willing to discount a 2017 he had in stock and I got a 5 minute lecture on how he'd go out of business if he discounted stuff. I said, "I'm not here to beat you up, just wondering if you're willing to discount it at all. Give me a reason to buy something I don't need." So he wrote me up a quote for MSRP and a low offer on my trade. (At that point I decided that I won't trade- I'll just list my 2006 GS for sale in the Spring after I service it and give it a thorough cleaning this winter)

    I called another (much larger) dealer, and the sales lady told me "They're so popular, we don't really have to discount them." To this I replied, "If they're so popular, why do you have over 40 of them listed for sale on your website at the tail end of the riding season, with 2018s starting to ship?" She said, "Well, come in and we'll work something out." Frankly, I don't feel like riding 4 hours to get stonewalled in person like I did on the phone.

    A few random variables: Interest rates suck. I don't feel like tapping into savings. I have a kid on the way. My 2006 runs just fine. My wife is cool with me upgrading- buying the bike won't affect us. Her 2007 F650GS was just totaled by falling over into a rock and she has pretty much resolved to no riding for a year or two after the kid shows up. I DO qualify for $400 off as an EMS provider.

    So really the only reason I've got the itch to upgrade is that mine is getting older. Too bad my two closest dealers are acting more like museums. There's a few in the flea market that have caught my attention, but I'm hesitant to go used- sight-unseen, unknown sellers, etc.

    So....
    -Talk me into it or out of it
    -Am I crazy for wanting a discount on a 2017?
    -What kind of deals have some of you gotten in the last few weeks?
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  2. Stoshu

    Stoshu Carnivorous Moronius

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    FWIW - I recently picked up a showroom condition 2016 GSA (from a private seller) with 575 miles on it. Has every option you can get, including all three aluminum cases, and grabbed it for more than 6K less than the MSRP of a 2017.

    The way I look at it, that's a lot of cheddar left over for a farkle extravaganza :nod.
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  3. JoeyHonz

    JoeyHonz Been here awhile

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    There are plenty around, and many dealers who are willing to work with you.

    Call the "big dealer" again and talk to a sales person. Tell them you are willing to put a deposit on a bike and come get it _____. There are deals to be had.

    That being said..... you would potentially be better off to wait until December (or there about). Seems that those are the best time of the year for rebates (looking back on recent years)

    Just my $0.02
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  4. Callisto224

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    Max BMW in NH. I got my GS for $3500 off of MSRP when the local dealers best deal was MSRP with $1000 towards accessories.
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  5. txcomp

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    I "kick tires" via the internet now and it saves me a ton of time and driving. I go to dealers websites within X miles of me and fill out their " I'm interested in buying X bike" form. I usually send out 10-15 of those forms and dealers get bonus points for responding quickly. Some dealers won't bother to reply and that is their loss, not yours. I did this when I bought my last 2 trucks and last 3 motorcycles. You find out real quick who's willing to earn your business and who isn't. Pick the top 3 or 4 deals, call the dealers and let them know they're not the only one you're working with. You'll usually whittle the list down by a couple of dealers by doing that when they stick to their original price. Once you're comfortable with a deal, pull the trigger. Dealers are there to sell bikes and if they don't want to make the process easy, find a dealer who will. They're out there!
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    ^^^^^
    The ONLY way to buy a vehicle these days!
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  7. Adam E

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    Max wasn't willing to negotiate over the phone. MSRP or "come on in and we'll see."
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  8. Adam E

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    I read about lots of people doing this, but it's never ever worked for me. Probably because there aren't 10-15 dealers around me. I've got Franks to the North and 4 Max locations to the South. Neither one has responded to Internet requests for quotes, which is why I drove to one and called the other. They really act like they're not interested in selling them. And it's never worked for cars either- I've always done better in person.

    Anyone have recommendations for dealers that return emails? Preferably within a days ride of New England. I wouldn't mind riding across the country but I've got a job and other stuff that makes it difficult
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  9. Zlock

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    Did you try Bob's BMW in Jessup, MD? They are showing a bunch of 17 GSAs in stock. I've never bought a bike from them but have had good service on apparel and accessory purchases. You would think dealers would be more willing to cut a deal on GSAs since they have to be sold without the pannier racks.
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  10. AdamChandler

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    Your mileage will always vary but I've bought my last 4 vehicles this way and always save some money.

    • Call every dealer within 200 miles with exactly what you want and ask "what's the price for that spec?" Write down both the VIN & asking price
    • Go to a local credit union, get the loan secured for any one of those VIN numbers and take advantage of every discount (I save .7% Interest by having a credit card through them, Auto Pay and Direct Deposit for my paycheck to simply cover the loan amount) I have a 3.5% Interest rate on my bike that was 4.2% base simply by having multiple loans + other discounts). Loan approvals are usually good for 30 days so now you have time to shop around.
    • Start looking on Cycle Trader for private sales in the same spec. Low mileage deals. I ran across 2 people with 2016 GSAs within the last 6 weeks who bought the bike and then realized they were too tall for them and selling them 5K off MSRP with only 1,000 miles.
    • Call back the dealer that was willing to play ball and give them the VIN of a few used vehicles you're looking for. Indicate those have extras but you're fine with getting last year's model or a demo model if they can meet that price so long as the bike they sell you was never titled (therefore you qualify for a better bank interest rate (new versus used).

    In My case, Max BMW took a demo model, loaded GSA. Threw in NAV VI ($950) and found enough incentives, rebates, show room discounts to sell me a 500 mile 2017 for less than the price a used 1200 mile 2016 was going for via a private sale out of PA ($21,250 versus his $22,000 asking price). I won by getting a newer bike with a lower interest rate and didn't have to drive down to PA to pick it up.

    The same thing happened with my Golf R 2013 & 2016 that I've bought. These are allocation cars where dealers may get just 1 or 2 of these a year and they sell out fast so I just put $500 deposits down at 5 different dealerships. The first one that came in under sticker once the car arrived, I took it. Guys were walking in off the streets paying $5,000 over sticker due to "market adjustment" and I got one for $500 under just by 'spreading my seed around' at dealers with refundable deposits.

    I think the fact that I was dead-set on traveling to Gateway BMW in ST. Louis or Scranton PA to buy a 2016 Demo / used, Max BMW decided I was worth their discount to earn my business. So many guys go in and kick tires. Salespeople can tell when you're serious and are about to buy somewhere else. Within an hour of letting the guys at Max know I was all set, they came back with a Hell of a deal. 2 weeks earlier, they honestly didn't return my call for a full 5 days after I emailed / called them.
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  11. Adam E

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    Bob's hasn't returned an email either.
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  12. Adam E

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    I'll take one more swing at this later this week- I have a few days off and the weather is supposed to be nice.

    I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I used to work in sales (Honda cars) and I understand the business very well. I let them know I'm serious, I tell them I'll buy, I tell them I'll finance in house (so they can make money off that).

    I even just emailed the dealers in Missoula and Denver (we've bought bikes from them when we lived out there). I'm hoping they give a crazy deal that I can show to Max and say, "I will fly out to do repeat business with them- it's a good excuse for a trip to see old friends- or you can earn my business today."

    The good news is that I don't need a new bike.
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  13. Adam E

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    PS- you oughta bring that beast by my place to up my motivation! I can't be more than 20 minutes from you...
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  14. AdamChandler

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    Anytime. Where you at? I'm in Enfield.

    As for my post, since you worked in sales, then I literally told you nothing you didn't already know. Sorry about that :p Good luck to you!
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  15. Adam E

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    So....
    -Talk me into it or out of it
    -Am I crazy for wanting a discount on a 2017?
    -What kind of deals have some of you gotten in the last few weeks?


    OP

    Well, I think you're already talked into it...and that's your business
    so...
    No, you're not crazy for wanting a discount on a '17
    I think that there are many available.
    Last year at this time I had a deal worked on a new '16 GSA (low). It was Loaded with just about everything but alarm. Included all 3 cases (back in the day, when you could buy them)
    $~5,500 off list, AND a smoking good trade-in offer on my 2010 GS.
    At the time there were many incentives... what was it? $1,500 from BMW, 500 from MOA, 500 from BMW Car Club... + the dealer discount, AND 0.9%
    Only because of those monetary circumstances did I consider another LC.
    Ultimately, having owned 2, and not much cared for them, I decided to pass.
    Fine deal though. T'was tempting.
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    I was told by my local dealer last week that BMW models GS / GSA will or may have an incentive program to introduce the TFT screen option. He did not know what the discount will be, but may be in October? So the standard Speedo / tach models may be discounted?
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  18. SPX

    SPX Been here awhile

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    If you want to buy from a California dealer and ship it, I'll get you a deal that's at or near invoice .. PLUS any applicable BMW incentives to further lower the price.

    PM me if interested.
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  19. AdamChandler

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    What is "invoice" price? I'm sure a lot of us would like to know this.
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  20. SPX

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    12% off of MSRP
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