2017 Vstrom 650/650XT

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by MariusD, Oct 4, 2016.

  1. cyclopathic

    cyclopathic Long timer

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    read this: https://540ratblog.wordpress.com/ he had it tested and found that it had highest wear protection of all oils without Prolong, better then 4T (rated #3 vs #72). From what I had seen on BITOG from VOA the only complain was that it is at the lower spectrum in terms of viscosity, otherwise nothing bad. Will run UOA at next change closer to 10k and post results on BITOG

    The reason I like it I have a Bales adapter (http://balestech.com/filter.htm) and this is cheap and widely available; can do 2 bike oil change at any Walmart parking lot for <$40.

    Now let's not derail this thread anymore, PM if you have any questions.
  2. eakins

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    Some light reading in there :-)
    It's based on what's best for autos however.
    Did not see Redline oil listed but did note Motul 300v listed down the line.
    300v being considered one if the best Moto performing oils on the market.

    Basically if your oil is less than type V/5 ester based synthetic oil (ie type 3 or 4 synth oils) then it's sub grade per what is available on the market and technology wise.

    It's that simple, want the best for your engine use an ester based synthetic oil.
    After that type 4 and 3 oils work well.
    I do not use traditional petroleum oils (below 3) anymore.
  3. cyclopathic

    cyclopathic Long timer

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    Dude is an owner of 540 bimmer, so it is his angle, and most of oils he reviewed are <w40, no use for bike. But still some useful info. I use ester oil in forks but it is too much dinero to run in engine; my 14m.o. Wee has 38k on it. To my defense most Stromers are cheap perhaps next to KLR or DR owners, and I like the "any walmart" angle. With oil changes and tires (Mitas E07) just need to figure out how to make chains last 25k.

    Yeah I think we may started another religious war ;)
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  4. eakins

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    Figured so. T6 oil from Walmart works for most in the big picture, I'm just very picky.
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  5. eakins

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    Since my repairs and maintenance are all on my time, my schedule & my slow meticulous work, I then have no problem purchasing top shelf fluids and parts as I see it as a balance out $ wise.
  6. cyclopathic

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    Maybe I should come by with 12-pack and have valves adjusted.. :photog just got quoted $900 in one place and $660 in another. :hide
  7. tjzondrz

    tjzondrz Non-Nefarious

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    I made a morning loop down to this place.
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    And averaging this MPG
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  8. Motopumps

    Motopumps Long timer

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    Sharp bike. Love that color scheme. Nice MPG!

    How are you finding the stock shield?
  9. tjzondrz

    tjzondrz Non-Nefarious

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    It works for me. More air when it's hot out would be nice. But, it is what it is. It will be just fine when the cooler weather arrives.
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  10. jojojones

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    This weekend I rode a 175 mile section of the “Puppydog” with some friends and was surprised to finally see 60 mpg as it was all under 60mph. When we fueled up the 1200 multi took 5.4 gallons, the new versys x300 took 3 and my 17 wee 3.3.

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  11. Motopumps

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  12. jojojones

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    we ran from Londonderry to just below Montpellier. GPX attached.

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  13. poppawheelie

    poppawheelie Been here awhile

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    Got mine just over a week ago. Have done several hundred miles, about half on gravel and dirt roads, of which there are many in central and northern PA. I can get to any town or camp ground I want, 80% of the way off pavement. Got a great deal! :clap:-) Previous owner had it less than a month, put less than 2000 miles on it, traded it for dirt bikes 'cause his kids wanted to ride with him. Only problem is he cut out the baffle. WAY too loud for me. I'm waiting for a take off. HINT!

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    I've already crapped it up with luggage, but that's because I'm going places.

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  14. Motopumps

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    Nice! I am sure a take-off will show up soon.

    Rob
  15. jojojones

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    what tank panniers are those?
  16. poppawheelie

    poppawheelie Been here awhile

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    Had them a long time, maybe 15 years. Pretty sure I got them from Aerostitch. My wife got a smaller pair (ATV bags actually) at Walmart. I've used them for 8 years now on the DR. They went rtw, literally, and still hold together. I'd recommend either pair. Trick I use on the DR --> I laid a bungie net over the tank bags to keep them from flapping out in the wind. I find that net very useful to hold down a map, quickly tuck a pair of gloves into while I'm riding, hold the SPOT, or even a camera or cell phone I may put down or pull out while riding.
  17. Motopumps

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    Played the Empire State Tag today. Skipped out of work at noon. Maybe one of the last warm and sunny days here before the real fall sets in.

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    Another tank of fuel at a quasi-legal pace, no slab, just back roads. Great mileage 239 miles and 3.8 gallons = 62.89 mpg

    Will do the first oil change and service this weekend.
  18. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2013 DR650

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    I like it those numbers!

    IMO, the Upgraded engine is one of of the most fuel efficient bikes in her class.
    The range can only be surpassed by the RGSA. 8.7 gallons or so.
    YMMV.

    The NCX bike is not in the same class. The Honda is in the new concept class and has strong commuter DNA.
  19. Motopumps

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    Yup, CCC built the park. The stonework in there is beautiful.

    I do still wish that Suzuki had put a 6 gallon tank on the Strom. I love to have great range on any bike I plan to tour on.

    After 4 hours on the stock seat, I was more than ready to get off. Need to address that next.
  20. ram350

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    I agree the seat is the worst thing about this bike. I love everything else about it. Talked to Seat Concepts and he said a seat was in the plans but their move to Idaho put them abit behind.
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