2018 American Flat Track (and other flat track bs!)

Discussion in 'Racing' started by Rich B, Oct 14, 2017.

  1. Foot dragger

    Foot dragger singletracker

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    You would be surprised,people who smoke a lot of weed,tend to smoke a LOT of weed.
    Ive trailridden with really fast guys who stop and smoke their pipe so hard they are hyper ventilating and literally cant get enough. I dont smoke and would be going 4 mph after a while if I did.
    It turns out different humans have different amounts of receptor sites that absorb THC,for some a puff is a major buzz,for others they can smoke all day just to keep them at their level of..............what ever level they need to be.
    I guess its more a mental addiction but some live by the weed. If somebody thought they would be faster in a Grand National main event after smoking and most likely they wouldnt be tested some would take the chance. In their head they are faster. Yes its a drug just like alcohol is a drug.
  2. Rich B

    Rich B Long timer

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    I tried weed in my misspent youth. All I got from smoking weed was a brutal headache. No buzz at all, just a brutal headache. And it didn't even take that many tokes.......

    Figured anything that gave me a headache that quickly was just not worth it.........
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  3. DogBoy

    DogBoy Not a Gnarly Adventurer

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    Hayden Gilliam will level up to the Twins class for four races in 2018 riding an Indian FTR750. Gilliam will race the Buffalo Chip TT, the Black Hills Half Mile, Peoria TT and Springfiled Mile 2. Great news. Gilliam is great on the TTs and I love seeing so many top roadracers crossing over. How long until some of them abandon roadracing for better paychecks in AFT?
  4. oupa

    oupa Been here awhile

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    NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is NOT what I'm okay with. I don't think I implied that and a hope nobody (else?) got that impression from my comment. I said; "Neither do I have a clue what AFT's substance program entails." I said it IN RESPONSE to the comment that he did not complete said program. The implication being that without know what is entailed in the program I for one am not going to condemn the kid for not finishing it. "rehab" et. al has become an industry in this country! I was exposed to quite a few "programs" in conjunction with my former career (30 yrs. I retired). There are PLENTY of companies who place making money and expanding their opportunities to make money head and shoulders above helping these kids and I find that personally appalling. So yeah, I'm not condemning him w/o knowing anything except it's "a rehab program!" Sorry ossadmr... this has been a sore spot with me for years. :fpalm We're all familiar with mechanics who are near wizards and treat their customers fairly. Then there are those who in spite of having a shop, are clueless - yet prey on unsuspecting clients who have even less knowledge of their bike, car, etc. Such people exist in EVERY line of work including medicine and "rehab.":(:

    You got ripped off... "from what I was told" during my own misspebnt youth. :D
  5. Wa Ho Thuk

    Wa Ho Thuk Long timer

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    Sounds like someone sold or gave you shredded grapevine .
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  6. oupa

    oupa Been here awhile

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    Soooooooo.... Anyone wanna speculate on Saturday????????????????????

    I see a lot more GOOD ("more-better") racing in the twins. Indain will most likely continue its winning streak. Two out of three if not all three almost certain to be factory machines, but the rest of the field has been steadily gaining ground. From third on back has become the race. Barring catastrophe, the championship is essentially a done deal. I've adopted a kinda "who cares" attitude toward it - and it was not a conscious process. Just one of those things a brain figures out on its own. :dunno The place swapping, battling brands and teams on the big end of the field though. Wow!

    Of course the REAL excitement is the singles!!!!!!!!! A class where you can still have a favorite or five and any one of them has a chance of winning all the marbles any particular week. :clap THAT's why I like racing.

    Anyone else wanna offer an insight or idea instead of the beating up on eachother we been doing for a week and a half? :hide LOL!!!!!
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  7. Rich B

    Rich B Long timer

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    I tried it more than once from more than one source of supply......always the same outcome......

    I ain't the brightest bulb in the box, but after 3 or 4 times, I figured it wasn't for me......
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  8. DogBoy

    DogBoy Not a Gnarly Adventurer

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    http://www.americanflattrack.com/ne...2-15-25th-anniversary-goodwood-festival-speed

    AFT is sending riders and bikes to the huge Goodwood Festival of Speed in England next month. The press release from AFT isn't very specific but it reads like they might have the AFT riders blast up the time trial part of the event. Goodwood also hosts several days of vintage racing with some of the most exotic racing motorcycles and racing cars ever produced. There is extensive television and press coverage. This is a good thing for AFT.

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  9. norton73

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    Goodwood is one of the events on my bucket list, along with the Scottish Six Day Trial , IOM, and a few others over there.

    Sorta related, I wrote a ride report about our Red Mile trip over at MC-AL

    http://www.motorcyclealabama.com/rides/index.php?topic=2929.0
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  10. Rich B

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    Yes it is a good thing! Goodwood is a big deal and gets a lot of attention. AFT will be something new and exotic to a lot of the people there.

    And in keeping with some of the vintage aspect of Goodwood, the 2 XR's will fit right in.

    :rofl
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    SlipChip Adventure Commuter

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    I wouldn't put it past Lord March to create a flat track just for the occasion...
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  12. bodine003

    bodine003 Been here awhile

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    And for more PR find Damon Hill, Foggy ,or Guy Martin to blast a twin up the course!!!
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  13. bodine003

    bodine003 Been here awhile

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    Building a neat flattrack bike,and then winning at the TT,that would be something for sure. They need an honest 200mph bike for that.[/QUOTE]
    Roland Sands is Indian involved maybe bring in Eric Buell build a sport/TT bike like Paton does and get DiSalvo to give it run!!!
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  14. marcusj

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    Why cant H-D do something like this...WTF plenty available riders out there for a long shot...JD Beach, put out an HR person to touter D Gauthier, ( nothing wrong with the H-D bad boy image its part of H-D history ) any of the haydens could come back and ride...Chris Carr Willy McCoy pick a singles rider for a race or 2. Be a good PR move... plus I have managed a few racing teams, everyone knows that more imput and more track time means more info gathered ( seems it can only help ) H-D will never keep up with indians if they don't do something...Seems to me that Indian is doing just what H-D said they wanted to do, support the privateer. They gotta get the bike, help, and info out there to the privateer & teams. A team of ten brings more improvements then a team of one V&H. Billl Werner seems to have stepped away??? What happen to stanton islands XG?? Through the grapevine the #23 FTR i don't think blew up at the Sact Mile...Blk flag oil leak, they were trying something new that didn't work. But something worked at springfield didn't it??? Sure wish H-D would step it up some more
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  15. bikerfish

    bikerfish flyfishandride

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    Because the Harley sucks and the Indian keeps winning. No privateer in his right mind is going to blow the money on that Harley. I don't see Harley blowing much more money on it. The times they are a changin.
    And Bill Werner has been running Kawis for quite a few years now.
  16. old scoot

    old scoot Been here awhile

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    I would love to see Harley start winning again and maybe we will. Fact is Harley doesn't need to go racing so who knows what they might do. They have pretty much carried flat track for a lot of years, now that the AMA no longer has it and Indian has been given some pretty big breaks they might just say see-ya. I would hate to see that happen but I wouldn't blame them. The France family has a pretty good record for screwing up good racing, Nascar is like pro wrestling now. AFT is like an Indian spec. racing series. I'm not sure I'll go back to Springfield this fall unless there are some changes.
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  17. Scoozi

    Scoozi Been here awhile

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    Regarding Indian competing at the IOM TT, there is a class that they could win, it's called SuperTwins and 99% of the competitors use Kawasaki 650 based machines. The only factory competing in that class is Paton http://www.paton.it/en/ they use the same engines as everyone else. I don't know what the rules are, but I'd guess that purpose built race engines are not allowed. Having said that rules can be changed especially when manufacturers are involved.

    I went to the first Goodwood Festival of Speed and enjoyed it but haven't been back, mostly because it's so popular and expensive. The main plus is that it's one of very few events that include both cars and 'bikes and there are always lots of interesting vehicles to look at. There is of course the Hill Climb which is not that easy to watch due to the layout and the large numbers of people there. I should add that it's a 'hill climb' in the English sense of the term, meaning a twisty road that that goes vaguely uphill, quite different to what you are used to. Having said all that it does get televised and I'll certainly consider going this year.
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  18. bikerfish

    bikerfish flyfishandride

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    There is not much difference between the racing today and the racing 30 years ago, simply a different brand of bike. For 40 years ama flattrack was pretty much all harley, with a couple hondas, until they won and they changed the rules to suit the harley. NOW, Indian built a very good racebike, Can't blame the riders for riding them, they have proven to be the best bike to win on. Harley needs to step it up if they want to do better, why change the rules simply to suit harley?? Why punish Indian for having success? It's still good racing, simply a different brand dominating than we are used to seeing. Harley rested on it's laurels way too long, and it's showing big time. If Harley wants to win, then they better build a bike that can win, not have the rules changed to suit them. THAT would be bullshit.
    I don't like a single brand at the top all the time, but Indian IS bringing a new, YOUNGER crowd to the track, and generating interest where it didn't exist before, and THAT is a good thing for flattrack.
    People say the Indian costs too much, but how much is it to keep an xr750 running and competitive for a season?
    Let me add this question, if harley had built a great new racebike and was winning all the races right now, would anyone be asking for a rules change so that Indian could win as well? Did anyone want the rules changed so the Kawasaki could win a few years back?
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  19. walstibsf

    walstibsf ADVENTURE-HOLIC

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    I just saw the vid from the OKC mile. Cool!! Good to see a good old fashioned cushion track again. Sideways at 100+...Just like the old days...

    Anyways, I think I get the vibe that Harley is managing their "race team" just like their other affairs: $$$ first, play how we want or fuck off.

    Notice how this transition came after control was relinquished when Willie G. retired. Kinda like Verizon. Great customer service. Spot-on transactions....etc.......UNTIL THEY GOT TOO BIG for their britches perhaps.

    I know I would be riding an Indian if the control housings didn't look like they came off an air compressor or something, etc. Oh, and too god damn many riding jackets that have the HD tooled somewhere....

    My .02....worth exactly what you paid for it.....send the flames....

    Laters...

    Bobby
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  20. gman900

    gman900 George Hayduke

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    As you all know I am not a fan of Harley Davidson's involvement in racing. But if you all think back a few years to 2010 and Kawasaki's first wins at Indy and Springfield you should remember that the rules gave production bikes (Kawasaki , Ducati, Triumph) an advantage, the XR750 and RS750 had to run restrictor plates . Of course Harley raised hell and got the rules changed like they always do but it wouldn't be a bad thing to restrict the Indians next season to let the others catch up ?
    The France family is killing Stock Car Racing , notice all the empty seats last weekend ? And I really do think NASCAR will kill dirt track with the same silly rules that have driven the fans away from stock car racing. I skipped Springfield last year and missed the Mile this year because of the weather but I would like to attend one last time this Labor Day. I don't like it that the rules were changed to allow Indian to jump right in with a race only engine and dominate right from the start. I don't like the long delays between race action so NASBIKE can show those same boring awful commercials over and over and over again. And that stupid big screen tv gets in the way of seeing the actual race by blocking the view of the track and pits . …...notice I didn't say Swiss Indian or V Rod once ?
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