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Discussion in 'Northeast - Greater Flugistan and home of the carp' started by Rusty Rocket, Jan 24, 2018.
Sorry on both accounts
I'll check in with Sefto to see what I can do to help
Is he the trailboss?
I've know him for years...
IDK who the trail boss is
One of these Years the dates on this event and the Smokin HoleRally aren't gonna collide!
And when that Happens I'm headed North.
ours has to be before Memorial Day weekend, because the area fills up with tourist and summer home people. We also need it to be as late in May as possible because of mud and cold temps, so best to skip that one once and see what you're missing and the decide if you like ours better.
Has always been a good time but this year it’s also the same weekend as Jack O’Connor’s snowshoe 500
This is a great event. Are you folks going to provide us with GPX files this year?? The paper route sheet is getting old.
Yeah I don't know about the rest of you but for us the whole paper route sheet thing is a bit of a turn-off.
There is a good reason for the paper route sheet - so folks don't pass around .gpx files and the trails (many of which are open to riders only for this event) get abused and trampled on afterwards. Then area landowners complain and the event would not be allowed to happen in future years. If having a route sheet will keep the event going into the future, its a small price to pay.
Get a better route sheet holder - like a BZR - which is magnified - will make your using one a heck of a lot easier.
If it wasn't so easy to track where you've been with GPS I'd agree with you but if someone wants to save the route for later after riding the event they can do it with an app. We do it all the time for bicycle races so we can do course recon the following year. Using a paper route sheet won't stop people from coming back later.
But it makes it harder - takes time and energy to convert it - and most won't bother.
The true issue here is a large number of people who don't abide by the BBA's policies as well as that of host BTR's policies of not using these trails outside of a sanctioned event. Anyone sick of route sheets can blame those idiots - as they are the ones who spoil it for the rest of us on a regular basis.
If I catch someone in NDR riding in areas that are not sanctioned when they are riding them, they get an instant lifetime ban from NDR - not negotiable whatsoever. Can't have people wrecking our opportunities for legal OHV riding - then the terrain the rest of us enjoy will only continue to grow smaller.
No it doesn't. Starting from the home screen of my phone it takes three taps to start recording, and two taps to end the recording afterward. Add one tap to the end if I want to share it with my friends. Then I can go back at any time and get turn by turn navigation over the route I just rode. In fact, going back and riding it again is actually easier than the first time I ride the route because the first time around I have to import the GPX file whereas the second time it's already in the app now.
I can appreciate why you have this policy, I just think it's misguided. When everyone has a computer and GPS device in their pocket the policy isn't going to help anything.
You are part of the problem - finding ways to go around the system - and even worse, showing others how to do the same on a public forum.
If you really think I'm disclosing some massive state secret I have a bridge I'd like to sell you.
Google is a thing, and the tools exist whether you like it or not.
we don't have anyone in the club who is GPS/computer literate enough to do it. There's really only 3 or 4 members who put this together. 2 of us have GPS on our bikes. The only way I know how to do it would be to actually ride and record the route with my GPS (Garmin 60csx) without error (I haven't figured out editing). Problem is I moved to Tenn. Most of the roads we use aren't in Mapsource or Basecamp. The only way to use them is to ride them and often we can't get into many till April 15th -May 1st and that's waaayy too late to start laying out the route. I can create a route sheet from here because I have decades of experience in that part of the world and know distances (have them on old route sheets ). One of the other guys has a GPS and one of them wants one.
We are a dirtbike club. This event is not really our normal type (even though it's the 15th or 16th time) of event because 95% of our members don't have a bike that would be worthwhile riding an event like this (mostly 2 strokes and competition bikes) so we fall back on what we know. Sorry if a route sheet is too "old school" but it's what we've got and it's worked fine for all these years.
RR, looks like i'm going to suck it up and go to the meeting on Thursday.
I'm very much not a club kind of guy, buy but since I've ridden most of what's up there on big bikes, I figured I officially lend a hand...
great! they will welcome the help. I'm doing what I can from 750 miles away. I will be there in May to work the event though
Aren’t you a sweetie...
Great to see the event is shaping up for this year. Had a great time last year. First time using a route sheet. Was a lot of fun. I wouldnt change a thing. The paper route sheet isn’t bad at all even Baja and other events still use it. You can track the route on your gps but respect the club and don’t share it. With adventure riding getting so popular and limited places here on the east coast to go, Many of the places that used to be less traveled are more travelled today. The Trans Mass and Puppy dog routes are a good example. Been hearing about complaint of people on the road irritated with the excess traffic and bikes flying down the roads.
Thanks again for putting it together again this year.
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+1 for the BZR route sheet holder