2018 DAKAR RALLY COVERAGE a.k.a. firehose thread

Discussion in 'Racing' started by troy safari carpente, Jan 8, 2016.

  1. JMo (& piglet)

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    There could be an element of that... hopefully Honda are playing a far more [team] tactical game this year - and by BB 'hustling' a bit at this stage (as I only slightly jokingly suggested earlier today), the other teams may feel they don't have to push quite as hard to catch up now?

    Bam Bam can then have a relatively 'easy' stage today, then save himself for the final assault towards the end of the rally.

    Of course it might be more simple than that - if his wrist is hurting him by now, then this is away not to lose face - if he doesn't ultimately podium this year, he can blame it on the injuries, and if he does, it will have been in spite of them.

    Jx
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  2. troy safari carpente

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    Bolivian time = GMT -4 hours.

    Scandwegia is GMT + 1 hour.

    Start SS8 at 6:00 plus 5 hours = 11:00 hr sunday morning in our part of the ADV World. :D
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  3. pebble35

    pebble35 Long timer

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    We should know for sure within half an hour or so ? Mischa's tracker shows a 6am start time for him (4 hours behind GMT so 10am GMT) - will he roll away from the start line in 25 minutes ?
  4. too old

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    You mean in just over 20 minutes then?
  5. troy safari carpente

    troy safari carpente #501 Team f5oolery

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    No... I reacted to the dakar.com media release... seems it is confirmed on facebook that he does intend to take the start of SS8 and attempt to complete the Marathon stage from Uyuni...
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    500km special. :hung

    *20-30km liaison first.
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    If you go race another team you never race them at there strategy,
    they know it better.
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  8. Balkan Boy

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    Here's that spot again, and oh the irony, Barreda doing it the safe way.

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  9. JMo (& piglet)

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    They can get parts from each other (other competitors and/or fellow team-mates) during the stage, and also on liaison - you might notice that there is a short liaison section between the ASS and the bivouac this evening. This is where any last-minute swapsies can occur (quite legitimately) before the vehicles are put into parc ferme overnight.



    Pretty much - the rules have always stipulated that during the timed stages, only help from other competitors is allowed. As the cars got faster, so the propensity for major components to fail increased, and trucks were the most suitable vehicle to carry the spares in.

    Of course now there is effectively a whole class for those with money to burn and race for the hell of it - but then in the bigger teams even those trucks have got trucks behind them to support them!

    Jx

    ps. with regard to your [Mouse] post a few pages earlier - I don't think anyone here is suggesting that Lyndon is trying to bend any rules at all (as you say he wouldn't - primarily from a personal integrity point of view of course, and because so much of his campaign is on camera this year) - rather people are just trying to understand the logisitics of competing in the Malle Moto class, since so much focus is on it this year - both from the Dakar Orga, and not least the exposure the Races2Places media team are giving to a wider audience. I agree that this daily diary series is probably doing more to promote the Dakar Rally outside of the hard-core race followers than any project before it. Such is the reach of social media.
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  10. troy safari carpente

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    The Peugeot T4 truck (also) presumeably has spares that CDp then (later) repaired their canabilized car - after Peterhansel had left... The "extra" person could be a member of the truck crew... all competitors can help all (others) on a Marathon stage... theoretically a team of four auto's and two T4 trucks... have 14 personell on hand at a Marathon bivouac... if ALL are schooled in mechanics - that's a lot of spanners you can toss at a problem.
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    Stage 8
    The second part of this marathon stage also includes the longest special stage of the rally, covering nearly 500 kilometres. Before leaving the Altiplano, the competitors will be put to a tough test in high-altitude sand dunes 3,500 m above sea level. This should start to give us a better idea of the leaderboard; the handful of men or women capable of winning the Dakar will now be revealed.


    High-altitude + dunes + worn tires + tired engines and bodies.

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    There was discussion earlier on tyre/wheel changes on the marathon stage and whether they can be swapped between riders - Lyndon talks about it here (at about the 4.00 mark) and from his comments it certainly seems that tyres/wheels cannot be swapped and that, not only are the tyres/rims marked, they are also marked with the competitor number and, presumably, this is checked by ASO at the end of the second marathon day



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  13. troy safari carpente

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    :nod
    THIS
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  14. 640 Armageddon

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    So... Basically you're saying that even if it's a marathon, it could be : business as usual :jack:lol2
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  15. JMo (& piglet)

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    Ah, but will it be cut short at all?

    Jx
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    Out of all this KTM "inheriting" the balance of Power - now that Barreda is limping (reportedly)... there is one blue bike that (aside from a couple small sand vaults and a mud superman) is AVB... the moral "69" of the elite. :D

    Cred to Meo and Tobes for opening yesterday... BamBam made beceaup time... but paid the penalty (take a knee)... Kevin is in good position overall... Soultrain is handy in there behind the Bever and QUINT ain't out of this show yet...

    KTM and Yamaha are in strength positions, Honda have their shot with Kevin... if Joan knee is as bad as reported... Husky is not out of it...

    This thing is (still) wide open.

    WALKNER for the SS8 win in MOTO today. :D

    Fire in the hole.... :clap:clap
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    Bloody Coma didn't even win a stage when he won his first Dakar.

    As we all have opinions and arseholes, van we stop with the 'frog' references?
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  18. Mouse

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    So, they don't race with a strategy mike? A team strategy and a rider strategy? They just let them go out and do what they want??
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    Do you dare to call him PrimaDonna?

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