2018 Harley Q and A and Ride Reviews, please bash "The Company" on the other thread

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by n8mandy, Sep 9, 2017.

  1. rider33

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    the nice thing about a King is that it is totally unflappable, wind, weather, whatever, nothing really phases it, You can also dress it up or down in seconds to suit the task at hand. I guess tho what always bring me back to the King is the minimum of extraneous bullshit on it. The lines are classic and timeless.
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  2. old scoot

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    The R.K. standard appeals to me and I have a Road Glide. I love my RG but a bare bones touring bike has a certain attraction. I'm pretty curious about the 114 Heritage also, might actually be pick of the litter this year.
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  3. DirtyRoadie

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    I've wanted a RK for years but with this new 114 Heritage on the horizon, (actually on my dealer floor, I just checked) I will wait a bit longer to hear how these bikes compare. The dealer near me has the Heritage 114 in the denim red and boy does it just look "right". Not a fan of the R.K. standard, seems like you pay more and get less.
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    43mm = 1.7 inch x 2 = 3.4 inch travel
    56mm = 2.2 inch x 2 = 4.4 inch travel
    fwiw I've heard widely different opinions on saddle comfort and shock ride quality among the various owners and models
    First year for these shocks may be "interesting."
    For two up dirt roads I would suspect aftermarket shock would be worth while.
    Do not see any mention of compression/rebound adjustments possible. Could be fine or bad.
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  5. DirtyRoadie

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    No hurry, were not far from winter here. Plenty of time to read reviews and dream a bit. I have a Supertenere now that reigns supreme two up on dirt roads but I really want a touring cruiser like the RK or possible new Heritage. I may have been mistaken in my earlier post, it's the RK special that you pay more and get less for.
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  6. Deans BMW

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    One of my currently owned motorcycles is a '14 Road King and as much as I hate to say it, I 100% enjoy it, the classic looks the total visceral involvement and the total comfort while touring. Great brakes and actually handles not bad at all, will cruise effortlessly at 90 all day and still get over 40 MPG. A far cry of HD's of not too many years ago. Switching back and forth between it and my beloved R1200GS is an exercise in riding the two best motorcycles I have ever had in my 50+ years of motorcycling.

    Went to a local HD shop the other day to see the new family of Softails. They had a Fatbob 114 on the floor, sat on it and lifted it off the side stand, almost threw it over on the ground on the right side as it was so easy. Never felt any Harley like it in my life. My Road King is one heavy MOFO to get off the side stand and if the ground is uneven a bit and some gravel or sand or????, be careful and if you ever accidently get it leaned over beyond the side stand angle while stopped.......down it goes. This new '18 Fat bob was as easy as can be leaning it side to side. "Dean, go take it for a test ride" as they new that is where I bought both a '13 RK and then traded it for my current Road King.

    Rolled it outside, geared up, climbed aboard, buckled my helmet and hit the starter, immediately fired up, sounded good and felt good, smooth engine (dual gear driven counter balancers) but you could feel it, loved the mechanical sound of the engine but no clatter, hard to explain. The cable actuated clutch was perfect in its feel and engagement, the throttle control and engine fueling was at or among the best on any of the 100's of Motorcycles I have ridden. What the Hell was going on here.............the tranny-snick-snick-snick.........The engine was smooth....but when given throttle the power pulses came thru beautifully but was still smooth. As a friend of mine once said "Horse Power is fun some of the time but Torque is fun all of the time".....Oh baby, Torque by the bucket loads, handling--WOW---brakes---WOW. I hit about 115 in a full over sweeper, on rails and solid as a rock. I stopped the bike, got off to make sure the bike was not some sort of prototype hi torque V Twin Ducati, it was that good.

    Long story short this is definitely not the HD of years past, big time impressed. As a result, I have a new '18 114 Heritage classic Softail on order to replace my Road King, love the classic look, thoroughly modern in execution, visceral in its ride and comfortable in spades.

    Clearly these new '18 HD Softails are a major game changer for the Motor Company.
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  7. hyena

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    Good report, Dean. I looked at that bike yesterday at the dealer. Nice. I didn't care for the saddlebags. They look small, but I didn't open one up. It's like they couldn't decide whether to go with leather bags or hard bags, so came up with something in between. Maybe I should have looked at them more closely. But thanks for the ride report. No plans to replace my 14 King, so I will avoid test riding the new ones. :)
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  8. Red eyed and Rollin

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  9. dceggert

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    Yup, I am struggling with this right now as well. I would really like a new Ultra Classic or Ultra Limited to replace my old 99 but it isn't financially time yet. So, if I go ride one of the 2017 or 2018 it will just cause me considerable stress. What do I like about the 2017+ that mine does not have? New stiffer frame, new non-air suspension, more room for the passenger, 6 gallon tank, 6 speed, air vent for the screen, better lighting, M8, and the one thing I cannot add to mine....ABS.
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  10. Michaelrm69

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    Never thought much about getting a HD, though I've considered them to be good bikes, they just weren't my cup of tea. With the new '18 line up and a change in my riding style I do find myself thinking about making the switch. I doubt I'll ever be riding in packs with matching webelos vest, but a simpler form of open air riding sure would be refreshing. And, that new Fat Bob looks BA!!! :super
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  11. hyena

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    I just had to run over to my local dealer for a spot lamp bulb. $17, but I heard they last a lot longer than the $7 version at the auto store, and I run my spots 100% of the time. Anyway....they had a few one of the new ones on the floor. Looked closer at the Heritage Softail Classic. This one was in red denim, Dean. Nice. But I just don't like those saddlebags. A day like yesterday, when I rode all day, started out in the mid 50's, then gradually got up to mid 70's and sunny. I need good size saddlebags when I'm shedding clothes. Never could figure out how guys ride all day in temperature ranges without bags. Anyway, they also had the new Fat Bob. I like it. A lot. Not keen on the headlight, but I could get used to it. The third one was the breakout. I didn't ride any of them. As I said above, I plan to avoid doing that. :-)
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  12. rauchman

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    Great report, thank you. Well, not really since reports like this are causing my wallet great worry.

    If this was pre 2018 bikes, you have my dream combo....Road King and R1200GS. Now, with the 2018's, I think the Heritage may be the Road King beater. So yeah, when you get your Heritage, you'll have my new dream combo!

    Congrats on your Heritage. Please post up a review when you can.
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  13. rauchman

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    The regular RK has 13" rear shocks, while the RKS has 12". I've ridden a 2017 RK and REALLY liked it.
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    You guys and your freakin' Road Kings, you guys are killin' me.....I love those bikes!
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    The overall theme is pretty obvious. In here and in the other topic, even after the first few days. People who wouldn't have considered a HD ever or never even thought about one, are wandering into dealerships and signing on the dotted line. Mission accomplished, HD. Well done. That's absolutely what they were going for.

    So all the whiners who couldn't stomach the changes are proved to be dead wrong. Too bad for them. Harley wants new butts in the seats. By now, everyone who wanted a HD already had one, and is spending in accessories and maintenance, so that's all good. New riders, when young, will get into the family and you hook them for a few harleys down the road.

    Because now, they work like modern motorcycles too with the characteristics people expect from motorcycles in 2017. I remember reading stuff about people getting upset because of how smooth the harleys had become and that "HD has lost something in the process". Yeah, it's called engineering instead of calling the lack of it "character".

    I definitely should at least test ride one.
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  16. Deans BMW

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    My '14 RK,

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    And the Old Fart on the fantastic R1200GS

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    My favorite combo in the motorcycle world!
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  18. n8mandy

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    Dean, would you mind taking a pic of the bags open when you get it, they look like they may even be smaller than the Switchback bags. I know better than to go look myself.
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    I'm pulling this out of my butt. I would guess they are a bit larger than the Switchback bags. No measurements, but they're a little "boxier", as in more rectangular. I've looked inside Switchback bags several times, because I really like the bike. I looked in the Heritage Classic bags twice this morning, although not to compare to the Switchback, but they don't seem that small. I always thought it wasn't the length of the Switchback bags that made them unacceptable, but the width of the opening.
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  20. Robert OK

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    I wonder if the Heritage bags come off leaving a cleaner bagless look than the Road King (at least the '11) with bags off?
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