2019 Honda Super Cub C125

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  1. klaviator

    klaviator Long timer

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    Too much of an apple and oranges comparison. All but the Eliminator are much bigger and faster. Between the Eliminator and Cub I wouldn't even have to think about it. I'd take the Cub.
  2. villageidiot

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    Funny you bring this up.

    I’m in the market for a new bike to bop around the city. I’ve pretty much settled it’s gunna be an xmax or a TW200. I REALLY like the c125, but by the time it’s out the door it’s $5k plus.

    At $5k plus, there’s a lot of options
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  3. chazbird

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    True. My BV-250 can carry more than a box and basket equipped Cub 125 but all I need is the capacity for my weekly grocery run. The BV-250 does that easily, top box and IKEA bag from the hook, (= 3+ full bags) and sometimes some more in a shoulder messenger bag. I don't use the under seat area, a bag-duffle the rear portion of the seat, or my soft bags. The BV-250 was once offered with locking side cases, which I wish I could find, so it could be the king of capacity.

    With soft bags, a basket, and a waterproof square bag duffle, I could see the Cub 125 working for minimalist touring as well.

    Yes, I suppose I am being extreme in pumping up my ideals for the Super Cub 125, but as my first ever new bike purchase it's going to have to be more than a pretty bike in order to earn its keep.
  4. cabanza

    cabanza Smooth Operator

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    News article from Honda that gives details about the C125.

    For noise reduction, the newest version of this engine features a helical primary gear and high-quality crank-journal bearing. Meanwhile, for optimum shift feel and reduced shift noise, the engine has a high-quality shift-drum bearing, shift-arm rubber, and optimized clutch-damper rubber material. A semiautomatic automatic centrifugal clutch makes it easy for new riders to adapt to riding, while still enabling experienced motorcyclists to have fun.

    Front suspension stroke is up when compared to previous C100 models, measuring 3.9 inches, and the twin shocks have 3.3 inches of travel. Stopping power comes courtesy of a 220mm front disc and 110mm rear drum, while the cast aluminum wheels are produced using a special cutting process to enable the use of a tubeless tire; front and rear wheels are 70/90-17 and 80/90-17, respectively.

    Wheelbase is 48.9 inches, while rake and trail are 26.5° and 2.8 inches for predictable handling. Wet weight is 240 pounds, and the seat height is 30.7 inches, making the Super Cub both easy to get on and confidence-inspiring in around-town riding.


    http://news.honda.com/newsandviews/article.aspx?id=10410-en
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  5. cabanza

    cabanza Smooth Operator

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  8. YamaGeek

    YamaGeek Jack Skellington on a Pocketbike.

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    Why is it so flipping heavy? My bike with the slight extra weight of the 125 clone engine is still under 189# wet

    And they really need to consider a longer seat version.
  9. chazbird

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    Cast wheels & that muffler are probably the biggest culprits along with "optimized clutch-damper rubber material."
  10. YamaGeek

    YamaGeek Jack Skellington on a Pocketbike.

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    The Kaw 125 Eliminator is no longer available in the US and they have a new Grom clone called the Z125.
  11. YamaGeek

    YamaGeek Jack Skellington on a Pocketbike.

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    The 'classic' semi autoclutches had spring dampers and there's not much room inside them to add extra stuff. I'm expecting the 12 volt battery, the cast wheel and discbrake and the catalytic muffler makes up some of the extra heft. But it's odd that it's gained that much.

    That's 60 extra pounds on my bike. Honda could also have one of their China satellite factories bring out a C90 or better, 125 with the lighter frame and long seat. The Honda Elite 110 that DaBinChe likes so well was made in China.
  12. chazbird

    chazbird Long timer

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    What's ABS weigh? Does yours have a center stand?
    My Passport was about Sputnik weight, 180 lbs w/o a center stand.

    I would have bought any Honda underbone they would have brought back that was 70cc or more. C70, Wave, C100, Cub, Cross Cub, CT90/110/125, etc. For me the Super Cub 125 is what it is. It is, however, the most I would have paid for.
  13. YamaGeek

    YamaGeek Jack Skellington on a Pocketbike.

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    Mine's 178 with a near full tank(s). Stock with the old 50cc engine it was about 159. I'm not sure what the ABS system weighs.
  14. Oilhed

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    I had a TW200. I really wanted one and I really wanted to love it. I used it around town and on gravel roads. I planned on switching to the d/s tires. But it just couldn’t get out of its way on straightaways and short jumps on the highway. Maybe we just drive too fast in CT.
  15. B02S4

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    Now that you mention it, I've probably been aggressively tailgated more in CT, at least more than anywhere else I've been on the east coast. Go figure.
  16. villageidiot

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    Yea, for sure, but a Honda Cub is gunna be worse!
  17. Smaug1

    Smaug1 Been here awhile

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    Exactly what I was thinking. A nice used TU250X goes for about $2500, has a nice vintage vibe and a bit more speed. But only 75 mpg. (same as my CBR500)

    Got to stick with 150cc or less to get over 100 mpg, I guess. I got 105 mpg on my PCX150...
  18. wanna bECO

    wanna bECO Been here awhile

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    Okay, it's been beaten to death.. and no one has brought this up.. What about 17-inch tires. All the passport people are running gazelles or nothing at all. That being said, there aren't a lot of good choices in that size. When I bought my first set of gazelles they were 18 bucks each. 10 years later and they are in the 30 dollar range, sometimes even 40. I wonder what they are going to come from the factory with? I hope they don't cheap out with chen shins. know everyone looks at stock tires and say's " of course you have to change them" but that should not be the case. @cabanza what came stock on your zoomer and your cubs?
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  19. JohninVT

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    Tubeless mag wheels, ABS, 12 volt battery, a real seat, muffler, a larger engine with thicker cases, etc. It all adds up. It's still 20+lbs lighter than a Vespa 150 and 50lbs lighter than a PCX150. You can't compare it to a Passport. The newest Passport is 35 years old and was based on a bike introduced 60 years ago.

    That's like complaining that the 2018 Street Twin shouldn't weigh 440lbs because a 1937 Triumph Speed Twin only weighed 360lbs.
  20. bikeridermark

    bikeridermark Long timer

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    You plan on doing track days on yours?
    Ride more, worry less.
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