25,000 miles with Luke and Nick

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by Fishfund, Jan 21, 2011.

  1. Fuat Domanic

    Fuat Domanic El Coeur

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    Well, thanks Luke but I'm NOT a tuner at all! ; )

    I'm just a persistent victim of ktm's meta-bad product quality and worldwide uber-lack of service training. I would get rid of my 690 in a milisecond ---IF--- I could find a substitute, but in the alarmingly growing world of two wheeled trucks no such luck so far.

    What I did was a standart map install and ---standart--- tps adjustment procedure which I HAD to learn to solve my problems. I'm glad that it worked, at least for a while... I heard that you had the same problem in Romania, hope that there is someone who can help you.

    Bon voyage ; )
  2. brianstanfill

    brianstanfill has adventure

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    Now that's what I'm talkin' about! Good show!
  3. yellowknife

    yellowknife Is In Canada

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    Great signature - in a world where the average person has trouble setting the clock on a dvd player, folks like FD really stand out. I want to thank FD for helping FF get back on the road. Every day is a new adventure with these two. :clap:clap:clap:clap
  4. soph9

    soph9 Would Love to ride ALL the TIME

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    I think now we all know why KTM bailed on the Long Way Round...no offense but it seems clear that KTM may have not had faith in their bike to make such a long trip...just like you guys....if the KTM is such the ADV bike what's up with all your issues? I am glad you eventually get them worked out but question...do you still have faith in the brand?
  5. Gadget_65

    Gadget_65 Adventurer

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    Funny my brother-in-law said this exact same thing to me last weekend when I was telling him about your RR. He used to have a KTM. He said he thought KTM didn't want the bad publicity that would have been generated when the bikes broke down on the Long Way Round.

    I know I've said it before, but there's a lot to be said for reliable, Japanese bikes. Half the price of a BMW, Half the hassles of a KTM. I once had had a minor oil leak from a drive shaft on a Japanese bike (Shock, horror!). Fixed under warranty and off I went. Though I had to stop teasing my Harley friends there for a while. Did you know 90% of Harley's ever made are still on the road? The rest made it home. :lol3 I can see a KTM joke in the making.

    Great RR boys. Keep up the great work and best of luck. Now you are back in civilisation things should go a bit easier for you, I hope. But, are you sure you have to go back to work? What are we all going to do for entertainment when this RR comes to an end? Even my wife is asking me each day "How are the boys doing today?" :clap
  6. Fuat Domanic

    Fuat Domanic El Coeur

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    After 4 different ktm injection disasters of mine which were:

    RC8= Probably one of the most amazing designs and handling with the WORST injection management ever!
    Superduke 990=Great ergonomics and handling, somewhat the least horrible injection among the 4
    690 SM and Enduro(my actual suffering)

    most probably I will try to avoid KTM at all costs!

    BUT that doesn't make bmw or any other 'Adventure' bike available now a viable option for me;

    They are all heavy and getting heavier, I do not want to imagine a bmw adv or a new tenere collapsed in a muddy hill...

    They are all getting more complicated and vulnerable: My friend who has a brand new 1200 gs got stranded 3 times because of electronic failures
    1-the alarm anten broken
    2-fuel pump ecu broken-the service told us to carry a spare one!!!!!!!!!
    3-The second and new fuel pump ecu is broken again....
    Not to mention numerous cases of broken shaft drives and subframes and other electronic gremlins...

    I'd rather have my adventures on land, not on a broken two wheeled truck which requires a russian army heavy duty chopper to be rescued and a beverly hills beauty center look-a-like service -plaza- to be serviced ; )
  7. dcwn.45

    dcwn.45 Frozen Rider

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    Great RR you guys, I really love the videos!

    And for the rest of you FF's, let the boys have their report and skip the comments on "brand xyz sucks, they are too whatever and not reliable"
    Go do your bitching elsewhere!


    Luke and Nick, :clap:clap:clap:clap
  8. 2rock

    2rock Motoholic

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    Wow!! what a trip, just read all 54 pages in one go, screens looking a little blurry now! Can't wait for the rest!:clap
  9. scotty69

    scotty69 Been here awhile

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    Awesome adventure. I just got caught up. Took me awhile.
  10. Scribe

    Scribe £Bob£

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    Damn I'm funny.:lol3
  11. Fishfund

    Fishfund Been here awhile

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    Faith in the Brand I have. Just not in the 690. I don't think KTM has the fuel injection figured out on this bike yet.

    That being said, I think all this was meant to happen for some reason. There are many good running 690's out there with the same milage and they are having no problems.

    Why was I the one to get a bad bike? I have no idea.
  12. motoreiter

    motoreiter Long timer

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    Take a look at a used BMW G650XChallenge. Properly set up, they seem like great bikes.
  13. trackhead

    trackhead Utard Wankster

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    Any bike can have problems, and clearly these guys have the nuts to figure it out and deal with it with a grace. That's the story here, not "KTM's suck".

    Looking forward to more riding stories!
  14. soph9

    soph9 Would Love to ride ALL the TIME

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    never said KTM sucks but it is quite interesting to be able to do a side by side comparison and see what bike has had more issues with the same riding environments.... find it interesting that one bike is having more serious issues than the other that's all.
  15. ian408

    ian408 Administrator Administrator

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    Just think, you might not have met the Turkish Bath dude :lol3 That was a funny video.

    As I get older, I've come to realize that when shit happens, it's better to take it in stride and make it part of the journey. Otherwise, when you get home, you'll just complain about what a crappy trip it was and nobody wants to have a crappy trip.
  16. Fishfund

    Fishfund Been here awhile

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    I think this is a good idea. We are going to break down the problems into "Majors" and "Minors" This will be for the life of the bike since new. Nick's bike has 14,000 miles. I have 10,000.

    BMW F800GS

    Majors
    1. Fuel Pump Failure
    2. Water Pump leak (replaced under warranty)
    3. Wheel Bering Failure in rear wheel

    Minors
    1. Bolt in clutch vibrated loose
    2. Front Rim dented to unridable
    3. Kick stand switch failure
    4. Frame tweaked causing the rear brake to lock and seize the wheel.
    5. Fork seals leak

    KTM 690E

    Majors
    1. Fuel Pump Failure
    2. Fuel code flashes and the bike runs in emergency mode. We can not fix this problem.

    Minors
    1. clutch lever leaks a bit
    2. coil wire broke 5 times
    3. ground to regulator broke once
    4. mirror broke off from vibrations

    Looks like I'm winning, on both majors and minors, BUT and this is a HUGE BUT. My one major problem can not be understood or resolved, so I think that trumps everything and Nick does win.
  17. Dorzok

    Dorzok Long timer

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    so, the final word is that Dominic's tune ended up not working?? did i miss that someplace?
  18. TK-LA

    TK-LA SoCal Rider

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    I said it before and I'll say it again; time to pick up one of those little chinese bikes, (250 maybe).
  19. Fuat Domanic

    Fuat Domanic El Coeur

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    It was not a 'tune' but a standart map re-install and tps adjustment via diagnostic tool. Apparently it worked well from Istanbul to Romania. I suspect a harness cable intermittant connection around the neighbourhood of throttle sensors...
  20. Gadget_65

    Gadget_65 Adventurer

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    I suspect you're right. With the other wires that have broken repeatedly, that is highly likely. It would also explain the variations in time it takes to reoccur. The wire may be making enough contact until it gets just the right bump or vibration and a momentary break in contact would be enough to set off the error code again.

    Luke, are you able to trace the length of the harness wire from the TPS and check it for continuity?