2nd Gen. Ducati Multistrada (2013 and newer)

Discussion in 'Moto Bellissima: All Other Dualsports' started by Salvo, Sep 22, 2012.

  1. Moronic

    Moronic Long timer

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    I've ridden them both back-to-back on rural roads, about 90 min each, two-up. And on another occasion in the city, plus have also ridden each solo briefly.

    They felt less similar than they appear on paper. Overall my take was that the KTM would be the go for solo riding where gravel roads were a big part of the mix, while the Multi was better for two and for long-distance blacktop use.

    The KTM felt beautifully specced, with the instruments a particular standout. Different coloured warning and indicator lights popping up like jewels on the panel when needed but disappearing when not. Very light clutch, lovely gearchange. Bike feels very narrow at the rear, widening at the front to take on the fuel load. Nice riding possie but the seat is a bit narrow - obviously built to work well when you're standing. I imagined I could feel the springiness in that chrome-moly frame. The suspension I rated as good but not great - might have changed my mind with more use. The motor was beautifully responsive off the bottom and plenty powerful but didn't develop into the loping mid-range mile-eater I'd been hoping for. Felt like a bit more flywheel mass might have helped. Perhaps something else that would grow with familiarity.

    The Ducati motor felt much less refined off the bottom, and that flat monochrome instrument panel - lauded when the bike was released - looked crowded and dull. Heavier clutch and notchy gearchange (I suspect that is mainly in the positioning of the lever and linkage). Chassis felt a bit dead and, for a Duc, so did the motor - I'm thinking the steel-aluminium sandwich frame soaks up a lot of the engine feel compared with a full tube-trellis model. I'm talking feel here - obviously there is plenty of power. The Ducati seats the rider closer to the steering head, which feels a bit restrictive at first but means the pillion is further forward also for more balanced handling two-up. You can feel the steeper steering head angle compared with the KTM, and also the wider rear tyre - better grip on the smooth stuff, but a bit more affected by bumps hit off-centre. The Skyhook suspension is probably better than the WP electric stuff on the KTM we rode. Seats for both rider and pillion felt much broader and more supportive for long-distance work (but too broad for comfortably moving around on the bike while standing off-road).

    I didn't like either screen much at speed and in truth, my conclusion from the test rides was that I didn't like either bike enough to sell my S4Rs for one. Which was surprising since I've wanted a two-up bike and have been looking lustfully at both since I heard they were coming. Might have just had a bad day, and we were a bit rushed. I will try both again.

    As I've posted elsewhere, I'd be more interested in the KTM if the local importer was bringing in the model with the manual rear shock. The electric version is a single-chamber design with only four preload settings and three damping presets for each. I think they have set it up beautifully given those limitations. For solo work with occasional pillion use, great. For pillion work with occasional solo use, not so much and you're stuck with it.

    [FWIW I also rode the new GS. Best part of it was the airflow management, which I thought completely acceptable and much better than the KTM or the Duc. Nice riding position, comparable suspension - well, the BM's active damping could be set softer than the Duc's, but I don't know that I'd ever want it that bouncy. For cruising, again I thought the motor needed more flywheel, but it was saved by the electronic cruise. Big disappointment for me was that the motor felt very busy at highway speeds. Again something you'd probably acclimatise to but top gear felt like third. Of course, two-up and loaded with a head-wind and uphill, I might welcome that gearing.]

    The impression I'm left with is that the KTM was the only one I'd want if the typical ride brief included sporting use over a fair bit of gravel or worse. That springy steel-tube frame, narrower tyres and more spartan seating would make it fun to ride fairly hard on loose and rough surfaces. It would also be great on winding two-lane blacktop. The other two felt like they would cover the same ground, but I'd be less interested in riding them hard there, as opposed to plodding along looking at the scenery. But they'd be more comfy on long, dull bits of motorway and better for two, with the Multi the sharper road tool for high speed stuff.
  2. soggysandwich

    soggysandwich Banned

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    REALLY?.... two weeks go by and nothing else from you ?

    where is it in the classifieds ?
  3. soggysandwich

    soggysandwich Banned

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    Ok.... i gotta know,,how did you go from ^this^......to

    "i am done with riding".....bike for sale

    ?????
  4. zvez

    zvez Adventurer

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    very near miss perhaps?

  5. pleasantone

    pleasantone Antihero.

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    I was also one of the victims of the fork clunk problem, and when they measured things, the fork was out of spec.

    Ducati NA just paid for a replacement LEFT fork (the one with all the electronics).
  6. hubilado

    hubilado Motoquiero

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  7. arthurc

    arthurc n00b

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    Noticed the '14 on the site a week after my '13 Grantursmo was in the garage. I'm loving mine too. I only managed to get ~1500km before the weather turned cold for the season. At least I got my 1k service in before winter. Now I'm really looking forward to spring.

    /a
  8. DropinParts

    DropinParts Ducatista

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    I lost a great riding buddy. Died on impact.
    Making me take a step back for a while.
  9. Lion BR

    Lion BR I'd rather be riding

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    I'm sorry to know about your loss. A similar circumstance happened with me, leading to family pressures... ultimately I made the decision to step back for a while. I really understand it.
  10. DropinParts

    DropinParts Ducatista

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    Thanks.
  11. blake716

    blake716 nine toes

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    So did I. I've barely had a chance to ride it yet. I believe it still has under 100 miles. I don't know much about these bike. I went to the dealer just to look around and left with a new bike. All I've had before now were sport bikes and dirt bikes.
  12. jimmex

    jimmex Guero con moto

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    Before trams Sierra ride in Mexico.
  13. jimmex

    jimmex Guero con moto

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  14. blake716

    blake716 nine toes

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    Really nice jimmex. I can't wait until I get some time to ride mine. So far, I've only ridden it to and from work. I probably didn't need a bike like this because I ride off road more, but once I saw it, I had to have it.
  15. Buzzworm

    Buzzworm Adventurer

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    Got this today...

    Please be informed that an update is available for your Ducati Multistrada 1200 S

    Continuous quality control of the product has led us to observe that the rear accelerometer cable of your motorcycle's DSS (Ducati Skyhook Suspension) suspension system may malfunction. In the event that this occurs, the suspension system will continue to operate. However, the suspension will function in a "Fail Safe" mode, where it will perform in such a way that maintains performance and safety. In "Fail Safe" mode the semi-active control is deactivated, and the suspension operates utilizing a standardized compression and rebound setting set by the manufacturer.

    Your Dealer has been provided with the resources necessary to replace the part with a redesigned component. This update is free of charge, and takes approximately 45 minutes. Please contact your Dealer to book an appointment.

    Please be reminded that Ducati Customer Service is available should you require assistance. You can reach a representative by dialing 408-253-0499 opt. 1, or by using the contact form on-line.

    We would like to take this opportunity to send you our very best wishes.

    The Ducati Service Team
  16. Shizoku

    Shizoku Been here awhile

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    Received this email from Ducati today...guess the above issue is not an isolated one. My GTS was taken care of at Pro Italia awhile back. No issues now. Still love the bike :clap

    Dave In Valencia

    Replacement of Multistrada 1200 S rear accelerometer <?xml:namespace prefix = "o" ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>

    Dear David,

    Please be informed that an update is available for your Ducati Multistrada 1200 S (VIN n° ZDM12BSW7DB003729).

    Continuous quality control of the product has led us to observe that the rear accelerometer cable of your motorcycle's DSS (Ducati Skyhook Suspension) suspension system may malfunction. In the event that this occurs, the suspension system will continue to operate. However, the suspension will function in a "Fail Safe" mode, where it will perform in such a way that maintains performance and safety. In "Fail Safe" mode the semi-active control is deactivated, and the suspension operates utilizing a standardized compression and rebound setting set by the manufacturer.

    Your Dealer has been provided with the resources necessary to replace the part with a redesigned component. This update is free of charge, and takes approximately 45 minutes. Please contact your Dealer to book an appointment.

    Please be reminded that Ducati Customer Service is available should you require assistance. You can reach a representative by dialing 408-253-0499 opt. 1, or by using the contact form on-line.

    We would like to take this opportunity to send you our very best wishes.<o:p></o:p>

    The Ducati Service Team<o:p></o:p>
  17. mkmorrill

    mkmorrill n00b

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    Miscellaneous Ramblings:
    a) I bought a Multistrada Granturismo in August of this year when I found out I was moving to Italy. I love it. I've owned tons of bikes, this is my first Ducati.
    b) Rode the first 4500 miles in CA. One week long trip, two-up to our wedding at Lake Tahoe and honeymoon in SF. Wife finds it more comfortable than the bike it replaced, a 2012 R1200RT. I find it much lighter, quicker, and overall more "fun" to ride....and don't fell like I lost any touring capability.
    c) My rear DTS sensor/cable (a recall has recently been issued) died at around 1200 miles. Replaced by the dealer (ProItalia in LA, awesome folks) under warranty and no issues since. Bike is gorgeous, runs hard and everything is working great.
    d) Around 3500 miles, I heavily damaged my wheels after hitting a HUGE pot hole at 50mph (feeling pretty lucky I didn't crash) on a poorly paved road in the Mojave...insurance covered the replacements, so I bought some Marchesini forged magnesium wheels (didn't cost much more than the OEM replacements)...a total of 10 lbs lighter than stock and made the bike feel much quicker and more responsive. And, they're gorgeous....and magnesium! :clap
    e) Moved to the Naples, Italy area in late Sept...bike finally arrived (unscathed by shipping, hooray) in mid-Nov and have rode about 500 miles here in Italia.
    f) The different power modes now totally make sense. Roads here are so narrow and rough, and traffic is so heavy and unpredictable, I'm not sure how I'd survive without "urban mode"....more than 100hp is definitely overkill. I also ride a 250cc scooter here....which is really the perfect vehicle for this area (you see about 20 scooters for every motorcycle)...I feel like King Kong when I get back on the MTS.
    g) Am definitely looking forward to longer trips starting in the Spring. We'll be here for 3 years. Already planning trips to Greece/Croatia/N. Italy and Spain/France. Will also hit World Ducati Week this summer, and several MotoGP/WSB races during our stay.
    h) if you really want a (mostly on-road) adventure....come visit Naples....sheer madness in the city, but lots of amazing sites in the vicinity.

    Give me a shout if you want to know more.
  18. Paulvt1

    Paulvt1 Long timer

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    Is the rear brake any better on the latest version of the Multi?
    It didn't seem to do much on my old bike..
  19. cahoona7

    cahoona7 Rider

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    12,700 miles on my 2013 Multistrada 1200S and rear brake works good.
  20. Lion BR

    Lion BR I'd rather be riding

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    Good question. I went to my garage and checked my Multistrada 2013: the bike does have a rear brake, I had never noticed that small lever before. :D

    Kidding aside, I've purposefully used it only to hold the bike when I stop on a red light on steep uphill situations, for example. Other than that I never use it. But I noticed the rear brake fluid is dark, after only 4,500 miles. This indicates to me that it has been engaged (linked brakes), and it probably has issues, as it is prematurely dark, in my opinion. But I don't know... I will try using it in the future and see how it works when only engaging the rear brake. Front brake fluid looks fine.