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  1. scootrboi

    scootrboi Long timer

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    A Honda 125 Elite scooter is in an unheated, uninsulated shop, with bitter cold temperatures predicted tonight: In the twenties below zero, 30 below possible. Does anyone have experience with pushing the antifreeze envelope? No one seems to worry about the cars when it gets this cold, can anyone from North Dakota or Alaska advise me on whether I should drain the antifreeze? Putting it in is a real hassle.
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  2. scooterryder

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    If the shop has electricity, put a trouble light with a 60 watt bulb under it. I did this several times with my old Elite 150.
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    climbamt Been here awhile

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    I would also throw a canvas type tarp over it to help hold the heat from the bulb in. Just make sure the tarp can not come into contact with the bulb. I know in my garage, it has the advantage of blocking the wind which creates a warmer environment with minimal heat sources. Make sure the light bulb is an incandescent build, the fluorescent bulbs don't put off much heat.

    Good luck.
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  4. Warney

    Warney Been here awhile

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    Pretty sure the drain bolt is on the water pump, drain a little and test.
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    A 50/50 mix of ethylene glycol antifreeze and water is good to -34. If that's what you have in it I wouldn't worry about it. Though it may go down to -30 it won't stay there for anything more than a few hours, and even at -34 the antifreeze mixture won't hard freeze. More like a gel/slush.

    Of course all of this assumes you've mixed your antifreeze correctly :deal
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  6. scootrboi

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    OK! The antifreeze is relatively recent and a premix sold here in VT. I have a 60W trouble light I have to move 2 feet. I will only partially cover it with a drop cloth so fumes don't raise hell. Thanks for the plan!
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    Back in the 90s, we were stationed in Alaska for 7 years. I had an '84 Ford Escort diesel. They sold small rubber "heating pads" that glued on to the bottom of the oil pan and had a short cord that you would run up to the grille and then attach to an extension cord. They had several sizes - some as small as 4" X 6" if I remember correctly. It kept the oil from turning into molasses when it was below zero. It did not get dangerously hot - you could still touch it for a few seconds comfortably when installed. However, some residual heat would probably work its way up from the oil pan to the block/coolant. I think it used about 100-150 watts.
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  8. RedArrow

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    Why not just bring your scoot inside the house where it's nice and cozy?
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    I knew there'd come a time when I could post my "I've got the best girlfriend in the world" picture.:D

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    No you don't!

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    What a beauty.

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    I keep a toaster in my kitchen too.
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    I noticed how you said "once." :lol3
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  15. JerryH

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    I live in AZ, so no such problems. But I have 3 scooters in what used to be my living room. I ripped out the carpet and put down commercial grade VCT (vinyl composition tile) It is now my bike workshop in the summer, when temperatures reach close to 120 degrees F. I keep it 70 degrees F inside. I'm divorced, so I don't have the wife problem.

    A dipstick heater is a good idea, they come as an option on almost all cars. They just keep the oil warm, not hot. I would increase the amount of antifreeze to water to about 70%, about the max recommended. You can also put a kerosene heater in the garage, somewhere near the scoot. Those things make an amazing amount of heat.
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  16. fullmetalscooter

    fullmetalscooter Let me take this duck off

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    I think royal purple and other guys make waterless base anti freeze. Since I ve had cars freeze up once or twice I have to say Just pop the rad cap. Leave it off in case it did really freeze solid. That the thing it can ice up but if it not I feel frozen solid then there no real issues. I don't know what a block heater would do to a bike. Nor do I know what a battery blanket plug in heater would do. One of the ones that you rap you car battery in and plug it in to keep it warm. Can't see that harming a bike. may or may not do anything . . Best thing if you re really worried is a waterless aniti freeze . THen again would just draining it for a week or so really harm an engine? Can't see it rusting up etc in that time.
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    We got -21. Whew.:eek1
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    Since you used a premix that should be 50/50, no worries. You got some good suggestions, but it would have been unnecessary extra work. If you told me the temperatures were going to hit -40 I might have agreed with the trouble light/tarp idea or a kerosene heater.
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    So is that -21 wind chill or actual chill? Yeah, it got cold here in Santa Cruz, too. I think it dipped into the lower 50s last night.
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    We had a miserable night down here: 36F.
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