30'x42' Garage build project

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by gsweave, Sep 29, 2013.

  1. gsweave

    gsweave Yinz, blinkers are on, since 05

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    Hmmm.

    Block will only be two to three coarse outta ground. 2x6 stick framing over to give me about 10'6" ceiling.

    I am torn on conduit.
    Like clean industrial look but also nice to have wall plugs flush....


    May just put all 12 3 wire in studs.
    run all 240 in conduit runs.

    need 240 to
    boiler
    compressor
    welder.



    Only 100amp service.:cry remote sub panel from house.

    That's still a ways away
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  2. Crisis management

    Crisis management Latte riders FTW!

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    Been away from the computer for a day or two (been busy crashing dirt bikes) so apologies for the late reply, thanks for the info on the area and local ordinances. There are a few things we could learn from you guys, I like the idea of posting the permit, that's good for keeping the neighbourhood involved.

    Lots of other good info here and again it's different in so many small ways from our methodology, for example you measure your insulation differently too us, it's a factor of 10 greater (in measurement, not performance) than our ratings. :huh

    The garage sounds like a great space, I'm decidedly envious of that much area, hope your blocks get laid today (it's monday here already).
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  3. gsweave

    gsweave Yinz, blinkers are on, since 05

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    Whatever the space, it won't be big enough.... I have heard this cry from everyone who has built before:wink:


    Looks like heavy rain overnight and into Monday so I don't have high hopes on block work.


    The permits vary. Not sure they keep you involved as much as responsible in following proper construction practice.

    Required inspection times are
    1 footer
    2 framing
    3 plumbing prior to cover
    4 final

    5 Electricial must be done using an 3rd party inspector. All wiring must follow NEC code http://www.nfpa.org/codes-and-standards/document-information-pages?mode=code&code=70
    here's 1000 pages to make your head spin:evil
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  4. gsweave

    gsweave Yinz, blinkers are on, since 05

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    Weather is nice and sunny again.

    Marty came out and started the block all lookin good.


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  5. gsweave

    gsweave Yinz, blinkers are on, since 05

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    Block is almost finished....


    Perimeter drain start.
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  6. troidus

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    I hope that's perforated pipe, or it seems like it wouldn't do much good. I've heard of putting fine mesh fabric (probably something like a weed control barrier cloth) around perforated drain line to keep the line from silting up.
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  7. gsweave

    gsweave Yinz, blinkers are on, since 05

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    Per???:evil


    naw, It's, per ain't my first rodeo.

    no fabric thou. Just 2b, lots of 2b. will set two cleanouts however:freakyjust in case
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  8. Krazyjohnny

    Krazyjohnny Been here awhile

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    Very jealous and happy for you. SOunds like you have it all dialed in. My biggest concern as mentioned before is building across what appears to be a drainage swale. That seems to be covered with the perimeter drain system. I did not see any waterproofing against the block yet to prevent weepage through it to the inside. I am sure you have all of that figured out.

    I love the radiant floor heating except for the fact of how are you going to mount stuff to the slab? If you get a lift, large compressor, heavy tools, etc. you will have to be real careful setting anchors in the floor. Looks like it will give you many years of great use. You will suddenly become everyone's friend with a space like that to work in.
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    Just asking here. Why no steel (rebar) uprights out of the footings?
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  10. gsweave

    gsweave Yinz, blinkers are on, since 05

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    Yeah,

    The pex in the slab becomes a problem setting future anchors...

    Some say map the pex system and it isn't a problem, but It would kill me to ruin a zone.

    For the Items I have to anchor to the floor now.. Tire machine, compressor and a future jib lift I will set pillars and route pex around.


    Gravel and Trusses arrived yesterday, project is about to go high gear:clap


    Anyone have experience with concrete densifiers??
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    They were a bear to drill into the surface was very hard for about ¼ to ½ inch after that regular 2500 psi concrete no other problems with it.
    It might be nice for garage for hard wheeled floor type jacks I know my concrete has some scratches on mine from the wheels .
    In hind sight I would have considered springing for it.



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  12. MKJ

    MKJ Married w/ Children

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    Shocking isn't it? No earthquakes back East.
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  13. gsweave

    gsweave Yinz, blinkers are on, since 05

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    Well, West Virginia just had one on Sat. 2.2 5.5 miles deep.:D
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  14. gsweave

    gsweave Yinz, blinkers are on, since 05

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    Seems like lots has happened, But 12 hour days at work have kept me occupied.

    Wednesday, framing started.



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    Small battle with local Sanitary Authority, Sched 40 can not be buried with 2b, so come Saturday it needs re-dug and 1b that has been compacted 6" below and above needs to go in before they will bless the sewer tie in.

    I should have read the regs:wink:

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  15. gsweave

    gsweave Yinz, blinkers are on, since 05

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  16. Laconic

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    Looking good, buddy. :D

    We had some schedule 80 ABS break here where I work because some small piece of crushed rock got next to it instead of the clean sand it was supposed to have; it seems plastic pipe is quite sensitive to that. Ours was a pressurized water line though, not a sewer drain, so it might be a different situation...

    Better safe than sorry.
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  17. Cuttle

    Cuttle me? what?

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    looking good - I want one too!
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  18. gsweave

    gsweave Yinz, blinkers are on, since 05

    Joined:
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    Location:
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    Ahhhh!

    I was only mad at myself for not reading the regulations on it.

    All squared away just like the book wants. Got the okay to close it up.

    Roof trusses went up today:clap no photo's yet, still at work. I will grab a night time photo later.



    Silke, Details on location...otherwise it is Northern Yankee land.:evil
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  19. Cuttle

    Cuttle me? what?

    Joined:
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    Location:
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    your garage! :lol3


    and if not, yankee land is to far - I can't take off a this time of the year... :cry
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  20. gsweave

    gsweave Yinz, blinkers are on, since 05

    Joined:
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    Oddometer:
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    Location:
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    Trusses up and closing in building:clap

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