3x ADV bikes on a trailer?

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  1. spacekadet

    spacekadet Been here awhile

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    Howdy, I'm about to take the plunge and buy a new trailer. It's main purpose will be lugging stuff other than bikes, but I do want to be able to do occasional trips with bikes. I'd like to be able to carry 3 big adv bikes as there's three of us that often go together. I'd prefer a multi-purpose or convertible trailer, but I could fabricate sides for a normal bike trailer if I need to.

    Questions:

    1. Anybody got experience with three big bikes on a trailer? (even a dedicated bike trailer)

    2. What size trailer can be used for this? I was thinking 8 x 5 feet, but not sure if that's wide enough. It needs 1 tonne capacity, obviously.

    3. Anybody got experience with convertible trailers? (where you can remove the sides).

    4. Any photos for reference would be awesome...

    cheers
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  3. OldDog

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    Or Outbackwilly for that matter, he had a sweet setup. I'll PM him and see if he'll post a comment
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  4. Dr AT

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    I've got an 8 x 5 that easilly fits 3 x adv bikes.

    Basic 8 x 5 box trailer, with both the front / back flaps able to tilt / be removed/ swapped over. ON the front flap there is some angle iron for wheel channels for the 2 side bikes, the rear flap has the same for the middle bike. If carrying one bike I swap the flaps front to back so it's central, and when carrying 3 bikes the centre bike is loaded backwards.

    The ends can be removed for use as a ramp (upside down so the channel is underneath )

    I originally set it up 10 + years ago for carrying transalp / africa twins, so the channels are placed just wide enough to have the big fat pigs bashplalte NOT rubbing through the side of the trailer..... This is less of an issue with modern bikes (eg KTM 990 / 640 adv etc) - they are slimmer / higher.


    If you want a picture then pm me an email adress.
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  5. nevgriff64

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    IF the Adventure bikes are big, as in KLR650/DR650 or KTM640/950 sizing then an 8X5 box trailer can work. If the Adventure bikes are BIG, as in BMW 1150/1200's, I think it would be very difficult to make them fit.
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  6. timklx400

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    i have an alloy tray off a ute with a chassis & draw bar,
    tray size is 8x5, sides can be removed, only drawback is the wheels are under the tray so it is higher to load, wheel base is the same as 6x4 box trailer,many uses, I have a camper that slides on & off,extendable draw bar and bike trailer attatchment to take 3 dirtbikes on the drawbar
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  7. Brute

    Brute Melbourne , outer east .

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    Ive many times fitted 3 adventure bikes on my 7*5 bike trailer . Middle bike has to go on backwards though . I bolt in a front wheel stopper so I can tie the front down . Best bet if you want a smaller trailer is to have the middle bike channel go further forward than the 2 outside channels otherwise the handle bars clash .If you have to run tie downs where they will rub on one of the other bikes be sure to rap a rag & tie it with electrical tape where it will rub . Doesn`t take long to wear through a tie down .
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  8. darren70

    darren70 KTM, Ready To Spend

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    One thing we I've done when its a bit of a squeeze is lean the outside two bikes out slightly to geive a bit more room in the middle.
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  9. Rider 101

    Rider 101 Highly paid idiot

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    Remember in NSW at least if you exceed 750kg GVM ( trailer plus load ) then you need a minimum of mechanical over-ride brakes. If it is a bogie axle then you have to have brakes regardless.

    I am hearing rumours of new design regs that require two safety chains crossed and attached to separate points on your towbar.
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  10. Toy Rolex

    Toy Rolex Been here awhile

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    Measure the depth of the sides, if your footpegs can hang over the sides it will give you more room, if the sides are to high you may need to zip tie the pegs in the up position.

    I have a 7'x4' and it is to short for many of the modern bikes but I can get 3 on it, my 8'x5' is perfect and I often throw a DT across the front too, the rail is mounted on top of the box not on the A frame so I still have clearance from the back of my wagon.
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  11. Idratherberiding

    Idratherberiding my KTM 950 Adventure!

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    Am I the only one that finds it sad that Adventure Bikes 'need' to be transported? :cry
    They are made to be ridden yes? :clap
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  12. ephphatha

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    I've found exactly the same thing. A 7x4 trailer will fit three bikes side by side (as long as they aren't too wide) but you run into issues with the wheelbase. I've only used mine to transport my DRZ when it was unregistered and I couldn't properly secure the tailgate.
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  13. 2upAussie990

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    Not just NSW mate, pretty much every has a 750kg max trailer load unbraked.
    Tying a 990 down is not the easiest thing with tie downs either, especially around the bars, foot peg anchor points might make it easier with 3 bikes, will be a big load no matter how you do it.
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  14. Dr AT

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    Wrap the tie down loops around the fork legs at the lower tripple clamps
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  15. Rider 101

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    +1 for using the triple clamps. Worked well on my F8 when I bought it.

    Hunted around on the net regarding 2 safety chains but ADR's clear that it only applies to trailers over 2.5 tonne ATM.

    I first heard of double chains when wife had her float checked for rego at local tyre service. I think they were wrong. Pays to check as much info as possible before making any changes that are allegedly law.

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  16. toolbox

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    if the trailer weights more that 250 kg brakes are required even if you only 750 kg all up. is in the rta,s regs but not on the paper work for building small trailers VSB1
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  17. jtb

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    People have limited time and budgets. I bought my Tenere to be ridden on the dirt. If I wanted to ride on the road (bitumen) I'd have bought a road bike (and some chaps).:ymca

    I'm doing an outback NSW ride in July. I'll be leaving Sydney at 4am to arrive at Bourke by midday or so to then get a few hundred km's under my belt before dark. I'll be much more comfortable in my truck in the middle of winter trailering to the dirt. I won't have to compromise on tyres for the bike, I'll have a new 606 on the rear ready for the week ahead. If something goes wrong with any of the bikes on the trip we don't have to go so far to get trailer/truck to recover a broken down bike. I can meet a mate halfway and put his bike on my trailer and we can catch up while I drive the last half of the trip to the start line.

    I've owned registered enduro bikes before moving onto ADV bikes, NEVER rode them anywhere with bitumen either.

    Everyone does it their way... it's not wrong because it's different :D
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  18. Dr AT

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    :clap

    First time I did the cape 2 up on a transalp we trucked her up to cairns and back

    Same for the kimberly, towed her to alice. At least she got ridden back, but someone else did that ( I had to fly back to wrk from Darwin)

    The transalp got her revenge when we took her to arkaroola in the back of the ute...she blew her 15 yo fork seals when we jumped the ute off a cattle grid. Wouldn't happen to a real adv bike?

    Oh, the shame, we towed to charlieville before a 6000 km round trip for an ocr at lorella springs. The real adv riders rode the whole way on bitumin :rofl

    I'm most ashamed of shipping my transalp to nz...should have swum the whole way ?


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  19. Toy Rolex

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    I ran two hacksaw cuts part way down the tailgate and bent that section out, I then bent some mild steel strap to weld in place so the rear wheel had somewhere to fit and if I wanted I could cut off the strap, straighten the tailgate and weld it back as it was.
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  20. sb_250y

    sb_250y Safari Finisher 2011

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    I borrowed a trailer to pick up the outfit once we got off the Spirit of Tasmania.

    Essentially an 8 x 6 steel ute tray converted, the guy I borrowed it from had 3 Adventure bikes in it before, easily

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