4/3 vs dslr

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by 4power, May 21, 2011.

  1. Commuter Boy

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    No firmware fix for it out. It's nearly the same as what happens if you press the lens release button while the camera's active, so it might be a mechanical problem, or maybe a sensor inside.
  2. HardCase

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    Thought it might be time to bump this thread. Olympus has just introduced a new m4/3 camera and some compatible and interesting lenses this week.

    The camera is generally known as the OM-D. It has some other letters and numbers in its name, but it seems like it is going to be referred to by that handle. It looks similar to the Panasonic GH2 which has been generally acknowledged to be the flagship of m4/3 cameras for the past year since its introduction, but the new Oly claims to be more weather-sealed, so might appeal to pros a bit more than earlier cameras.

    Also new are a couple of sweet looking 'prime' lenses, a 75mm f 1.8 portrait lens, and a 60mm f2.8 macro. I don't know the prices of the lenses or when they'll actually hit dealer shelves, but the OM-D body only is about a grand, or, with a kit lens, a couple hundred more. I probably won't buy the camera, but the lenses are really interesting to me, especially the 75.
  3. HardCase

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    Oh, I forgot to mention that also being released with the new OM-D M-5 is a new weather-sealed kit lens, a 12-50 f3.5-6.3 zoom. Not a bad range on that one for versatility, but I yawn at those f-stop numbers. If I were just starting out in m4/3 I'd be tempted to buy the body and a couple of the newer Oly primes, and maybe a couple of Panasonic zooms.
  4. Lobby

    Lobby Viel Spass, Vato!

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    By m4/3, you mean micro 4/3, right?
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    He does. Ha! I googled it and figured it out. Alt-230 is the keyboard shortcut for µ

    Now we can all type µ4/3. :clap
  6. HardCase

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    Hmmmm, tried that on my Mac and it didn't work. Process of elimination led me to alt-m, that produces an µ. Yay!! :clap
  7. Lobby

    Lobby Viel Spass, Vato!

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    :rofl

    We need a Mod to do a title change. :D


    But since we're talking 4/3 Olympus cameras, here are some coin pics I've taken with my E-420

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    And here are the US, Canada, and Mexico 1 oz silver coins.

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    Nice rack on the Mexican Libertad, huh? :evil

    Oh, the Canada Silver Maple pic was taken through its plastic holder. When I took it, I was still on the learning curve.
  8. Grainbelt

    Grainbelt marginal adventurer Super Moderator

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    75 is really long for a portrait lens on a 2x crop camera.

    The 60mm Macro sounds sweet though, particularly with the OM-D tilting screen. Composing flower/bug shots at ground level thru a viewfinder blows goats. Those two, with a small tripod and a wider zoom would be a great compact nature/travel setup. :thumb
  9. HardCase

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    Yeah, you're right about the 75 the more that I think of it, that would be a 150mm SLR lens equivalent. It would be a little long. I used a 135 a lot back in my SLR days, however. I bought the Oly 45/1.8 last fall and really like it so probably have the portrait deal pretty well covered. Plus I have a feeling it's going to be expensive. The macro will undoubtedly be nice, but I have the Panasonic/Leica 45/2.8 so think that base is covered also. I love buying new lenses, though....

    Lobby, those coin pics are nice. What sort of lighting setup do you use?
  10. NikonsAndVStroms

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    If you don't have one yet look at the 14-54 mkI as a good step up for that camera, I just bought a used one for my E-620 and the difference between that and the 14-42 is shocking. Plus it was only 280 from B&H in almost mint condition....KEH and Adorama have it for about the same price.
  11. Lobby

    Lobby Viel Spass, Vato!

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    Taking coin pics isn't as easy as it looks. It's aggravating, hair pulling stuff, until you get your lighting setup right.

    This is what I'm doing right now:

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    The lights are from Target, LED's.
  12. Lobby

    Lobby Viel Spass, Vato!

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    Amazing. The kit lens is pretty good, IMHO. If that other one is that much better, well, I might approach a Nikon. :D
  13. AerialCameras

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    I've had an E-PL2 for only a few weeks and I'm already thinking of dumping the DSLR. The real love is being able to use my old OM and Nikon primes.

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  14. DriveShaft

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    I know photographers who actually prefer the look of an equivalent 200mm lens (so a 100mm 4/3 sensors) for studio work. I think the preference has as much to do with not crowding the subject when shooting as it does with the look of the image. I know on my 35-100mm (4/3rds lens), I do clock it over to the 100mm side alot & just stand back a bit, which helps my kid sort of resist the urge to run up and hug me. I know the likelihood of models doing that to me is slim to none, but I think they subconsciously appreciate having the personal space, for other reasons. :lol3 Anyways, at what I consider to be workable portrait distances, the 75mm/1.8 would be giving you something like 3-6" DoF to work with, which is great for its purpose.

    Composing macros through a viewfinder definitely blows. I'm really really looking forward to the OM-D (which I think is their way of naming a whole new line of cameras, not just this particular camera...anything that is built by them w/ an integrated EVF, in the guise of the old OM models is their "OM-Digital." E-M5 happens to be this particular generation of OM-D. It looks effin' sweet. I think it stands a chance at handling 4/3 lenses quite well too, given its beefier voltage architecture, which gives me hope that my 14-35 f/2 & 35-100 f/2 still has an upgrade path.

    I haven't owned µ4/3 since getting rid of my e-p1 probably 2 yrs ago, & lent out all my lenses to my sister & friends (really happy with my 4/3 e-5 though). I think I'll be calling those sheep back to the herd soon. :)
  15. NikonsAndVStroms

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    Just reading the name of that lens makes me :tb I can't let my 4/3 addiction go! :lol3
  16. HardCase

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    I'm definitely intrigued by the new 75/f1.8 lens, even if it might arguably be a bit long for portraiture. Many years ago I had an el-cheapo Vivitar 135/f2.8 lens that I got a lot of use out of for a fairly long time and really loved it. I see the 75 as being an updated reincarnation of that fine and useful lens. But I have a sneaky hunch that it's going to cost a pantload o' dough. I am willing to pay a reasonable price to have one (or any lens that I happen to want, for that matter), but I'm guessing it could be north of a grand, and if that is the case I'd probably pass. I have wanted one of the Voigtlander 25/f0.95 lenses for a while, but they are running around $1200 and that's just too big a nut for me to crack.
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    Time to bump this one up & see if there's any interest. Olympus has released their OM-D, a digital m4/3 reincarnation of the old OM line of SLRs. The reviews are generally quite good. Here's one:

    http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/04/30/Olympus-OM-D-E-M5-review

    Does anyone here have this camera? Or are any inmates using m4/3 cameras/lenses and do you have any comments or experiences to share? :ear
  18. DriveShaft

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    While the GH3 is sure to offer improvements, If you get impatient, the G3 is actually quite a good offering, and as far as EVF's go, I always liked how Panny actually allows space for your nose. :) You won't be paying through the nose for the video stuff if you don't use it either. Even though I have a preference for dual control dials, I think I could adapt to Panny's single push-to-select dial pretty quick. I think I actually prefer that over Oly's fiddly second control dial on its pen series, which is just way too tiny & prone to accidental entry.
  19. HardCase

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    I'm not unhappy with the GH2, and I do like the fact that it is a really excellent video camera. I don't use that facet a whole lot, but do sometimes and am happy to have it. I'm content to wait and see what the GH3 (or whatever else comes along down the pike) has to offer. I had thought seriously about picking up an OM-D body, but have reconsidered. They still haven't "fixed" the C-AF in this format. Additionally, I really like the articulating LCD screen on the GH2 which can be rotated and put away entirely. I use the EVF almost exclusively except for video and the occasional very low or high angle shot, where the articulating screen really shines.
  20. Fredfredburger

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    Anybody have a Panasonic GX1? I am looking to step up from my Panasonic point and shoot and I like the concept of the 4/3 mirrorless cameras, good photo quality with in a compact form factor that I may actually carry around. I like that I can get a zoom lens and shoot photos and video of my kids soccer games. I know it will not be as good as a DSLR but I would rather have something easier to pack on a motorcycle. The online reviews I read seem mostly favorable.