4 stroke Scooter Advice

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by Lobby, Sep 7, 2005.

  1. Lobby

    Lobby Viel Spass, Vato!

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    My wife is really jonesing for a scooter. But she doesn't want a 2 stroke.

    So what do you all know about 4 stroke scooters?
    - Reliability?
    - Brands? Vespa clones?
    - can they be souped up? :evil

    I think my wife would want something that would do 45mph. Me? I want it to do 65 - 70, just in case. :evil :evil

    So far, I'm aware of the new Vespas (ET2 and ET2) but they're really pricey. I've seen this scooter clone (Bajaj sp?) that on the surface looks nice.

    What say the intelligentsia?

    :lurk
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  2. mlaotn

    mlaotn Slow Rider

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    www.tngscooters.comThey have these at a scooter shop near me. The Baja 150 is a decent adventure scooter with enough power to go fast.
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  3. MountainMan

    MountainMan accelerating

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    The Bajaj is a Vespa PX/Stella but with a 4 stroke motor..
    and drum brakes front and rear (same as Vespa.. Stella gets disc front)
    and a cheaper suspension than the Stella...
    and slower.. :bueller

    same chassis and parts.. for the most part.
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  4. ToxicKim

    ToxicKim Banned

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    I take it you've ruled out the Silver Wing and Burgman? Those will tour cross-country.
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    RoadNotTaken Been here awhile

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  6. Nemesis

    Nemesis just ride the damn thing

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    Minor point, but the current PX also has a front disk.
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  8. Caribou Aqua Buddha

    Caribou Aqua Buddha Long timer

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    I think 200-250cc four strokes would be about perfect. About like old Riva we had.
    I don't really care for all those 500cc type deals, they cost more than a motorcycle, and don't really get good mileage.
    Not sure what size this scooter is,....

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  9. Lobby

    Lobby Viel Spass, Vato!

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    Yeah. She wants something to scoot around town with.

    See, we live in a small town, 25k folks, and besides driving to work, use the car only for grocery shopping, post office, gym, a few restaurants and movies.

    There are lots of 35 mph roads that can be driven to get to where we want, but I'd like to hop it up to be a bit hooliganish. :evil

    She told me that if I got her a smallish scooter, she'd probably never drive the car, weather permitting. :eek1 She's telling me to sell the 4Runner. :cry
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  10. Photog

    Photog Charismatic Megafauna Administrator

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    On the low end there are gazillions of 125/150cc "clones" out there (and now I've forgotten what they're based on...CPI bikes probably) but one distributor to look at is Vento.

    try www.qualityscooters4less.com for an idea of pricing (includes shipping). Most of these bikes--they all look pretty much alike and have different graphics--are based on the same motor, with varying degrees of quality in terms of the rest of the components and QC.

    Go to http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/VentoScooters/ to check out the owner group.

    Be aware that a lot of the 150's are actually125's. You'll find that out after hanging out a bit on the Vento Yahoo group.

    Hop-ups are generally limited to some mild head work, pipe, and variator mods on those bikes.

    TnG is a good brand--the Baja 150 (as mentioned earlier) looks like a neat deal in a scoot.

    The Bajaj Chetak is a tough little 150cc 4-speed scooter. Not all the Vespa parts fit but it does have a look very similar to the Vespa PX-150. They used to make a model called the Legend but I believe they're just going to bring the Chetak into the states. Used they go for about $1700-$2400.

    The Stella is a LML-built Vespa PX-150 with a few upgrades--reed valve engine, gas shocks. It's essentially a brand new 20 year old bike. Requires a bit more hands-on to make the relationship work--sorta like buying a Ural or a Royal Enfield versus a new Japanese bike--but absolutely fantastic if you want a bike with endless customization and go-fast possibilities. Used they go for about $2000-$2500.

    Then there's the major manufacturers--honda, yamaha, Kymco, and so on. You start getting into some money.

    IMHO the best way to go in is a used scoot--you'll recoup your money a bit faster in terms of gas savings, and usually end up okay on resale.

    A good buy in a used scoot would be Honda Elite 250 or older (80's era) Honda Helix (250). Usually under $2K and bulletproof. The little Yamaha 125's have a good following, too.

    For a 50cc bike a solid cruise of 35-40 is good; being able to hit 45 is very handy.

    For the clone 125-150 automatics, expect a cruise of 50 and a top end of 65. The nicer bikes--TnG, Kymco, Honda, Yamaha, Vespa, etc - a bit more on cruise and top end.

    Find a couple you like. Test ride them. That's the fun part.

    On the used 50cc bike, I recouped my purchase price in gas savings in 3 months. :D

    I'm probably saving around $150/mo. on gas right now with the Stella, though gas savings isn't the only reason I have it. The damn thing is more fun to ride around town than any other bike I've ever had.
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    Mods, please move this thread to the scooter thread (oh, wait, we don't have a scooter thread).

    Never mind....
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    Big Ruckus. Come, join the dork side :evil
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  13. MountainMan

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    FYI.. Mt. Baker Motorsports in Bellingham, WA has a Big Ruckus on the floor marked down to $4499 out the door..

    Saw it there on last Wed.
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  14. Marc

    Marc Just sayin...

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    Really. :ear :scratch Hmmm....
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  15. Stinez

    Stinez Rhymes with Heinz :D

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    I like the Honda Elite 80
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    MSRP$2350

    I have NO idea what top speed is.
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  16. ilmostro

    ilmostro Under Da Sea

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    And you didn't buy it?!? :thwak
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  17. DoctorIt

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    I don't know how fast my 50cc goes... its pretty much pegged against the stop at 50mph all the time. :evil

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    Thats what I paid for mine, and that included tax, tag and title.

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    What was that modification you told me about?
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    Love it.
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