/5 lessons; what's stock, what's not, and what to look for

Discussion in 'Old's Cool' started by datchew, Jan 12, 2007.

  1. datchew

    datchew Don't buy from Brad

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    Since i'm still adding to my picture and information stores for that future /5 purchase, I'd like to see if you geezers and gurus could look at the pictures of this baby and tell me about it.

    i.e. Original pipes, handlebars, turn signals, etc.

    I'm keeping a picture log on file with notes so when i start shopping in probably a year or so, I can be well prepared.

    Here's the link. It's for sale on IBMWR right now.
    I'd buy it but i don't have a house with a garage yet. That's phase I.

    http://www.4woods.net/R75slash5.htm
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  2. jdiaz

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    That's a damn good-looking bike for $2500. The wife my bike started with was in roughly that shape, and she paid $2600.

    Do a web search on Duane Ausherman, and look at www.5united.com if you want to learn about /5's.
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  3. Mugwest

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    looks pretty correct from here Dat, 'cept for the chroming on the valve covers. Each his own i guess.
    Bars: seem to recall from the Illustrated Buyer's Guide that the early US /5's came with higher bars that ended up being dubbed (duh) "US bars"-- the ones on this bike don't look as high as i remember US bars being, but that may just be the photography. Or someone may have put the european stocker on. The /5 crew here will clarify i'm sure.
    That rear rack looks like possibly a later item add-on. Seems like racks on this period airhead were chrome, when they even had them

    From a purists perspective, the Mayer has to go.
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  4. StephenB

    StephenB G(/)S ... what else!

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    Nice looking bike I'd buy that one if I were you and had the money

    Missing: chrome side panels
    Wrong: chromed valve covers
    Upgrade: 24l tank, lockable gas cap, Headlight conversion
    accessories: rear luggage carrier, one piece crashbar, header covers, Mayer saddle, progressive fork springs, rear hub cap

    Especially nice: correct pipes, correct rear shocks with aluminum cover, rear hub cap

    I am sure there is more, but that is all I can see at the moment.
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  5. elmoreman

    elmoreman takin' a break, boss

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    Yeah...that's a nice bike for the price.

    13 rib fork boots are also stock. I can't count them accurately on this picture. Of course the H4 conversion means you'll have to see things better in the dark, which isn't authentically a /5 experience:lol3 .
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  6. philp38

    philp38 Long timer

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    Nice bike for the money. That bike is in alot better condition than my /5 was before the rebuild. Is it in Florida Datchew?
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  7. bmwblake

    bmwblake upside down parker

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    those pics look really familiar. i think this guy has had that bike posted off and on for more than a year. just makes me wonder why its still around. just a little fyi.
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  8. jtwind

    jtwind Wisconsin Airhead

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    I looked at those photos a few days ago. Looks like a good bike, but you never really know till you see it in person. Though at that price it's probably hard to go too wrong. Other than the seat and the valve covers it looks original. A 70 /5 didn't have any battery covers so that's correct. JT
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  9. kixtand

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    Ok, I am going to list what I see as not original/correct for the year in addition to what has been said (i.e seat, valve covers, etc...) and also some additional notes that I think merit mentioning.

    First, the carb breather tubes are not correct. The /5 tubes started out as silver, but are typically faded to gold, at least in some areas, by now. The black ones are what are currently available; there is no functional difference, purely cosmetic.

    The big tank was the only one available for this year. As has been noted, the locking cap was not standard, but was available from BMW and may have come on some from the showroom, but the caps were still aluminum and not chrome at the time. Also, it looks like the cap opens toward the front, which should also be correct for this year.

    The crash bars, heat shields, and rear rack are all accessories and are not considered stock. None of these should be an issue excepting the crash bars, which could have damaged the frame (either cosmetically or mechanically, depending.) My guess is that there will at least be damage to the paint. It is also worth noting that the crash bars and heat shields seem to be a common accessory that were added perhaps at the delaer, or perhaps even by the importer at the time??

    In addition to the mufflers being correct, the header pipes also look to be correct from what I could tell (OEM, at least.) Note that one easy way to tell if there are non-OEM pipes is to look for the external clamp on the crossover pipe; if there is a clamp, they are not OEM.

    The headlight ears do NOT have reflectors, but the turn signal housings DO, which is correct for this year. Additionally, the front signal mounts and also the rear bracket look to be the original plated ones, which is correct. (This is hard to tell for sure from the photos, but they definitely do not look like they are chrome.)

    The engine badges do NOT have a black background, which is correct.

    The shock springs are black, which I also believe to be correct for this year.

    The center stand "tang" looks to be original. Note that the tang was NOT straight, but was actually bent to follow the contour of the exhaust.

    I can't tell for sure, but it looks like the horn might not be correct. Also, again not for sure, but I don't think the Bings of this vintage should have the black plates. Can anyone confirm either??

    kix
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  10. Bigger Al

    Bigger Al Still a stupid tire guy

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    I'm not really all that savvy on slash-5's, but that is one nice looking bike! Price is good, too.
    Go to amazon.com and look for a book by Mick Walker called "BMW Twins: All Flat Twins 1955-85, Restoration." I have this book, and it's loaded with pictures and diagrams.
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  11. jtwind

    jtwind Wisconsin Airhead

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    Al,, I looked for the book on Slash 5's, didn't find it. That's one I haven't heard of yet. Any idea what it was called or who wrote it? There was a book on the BMW 5 series cars, could that have been what you saw? JT
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  12. joelwebb

    joelwebb Adventurer

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    Nice looking /5. There is lots of info available on the /5 at the 5 United Web page: http://www.5united.net/ and they have a email group (Yahoo Group) with lots of daily discussions on the /5. Hope you have many happy miles on this bike!

    Joel
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  13. Bigger Al

    Bigger Al Still a stupid tire guy

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    I am officially an idiot. I didn't read the description, but glanced over it. The car book is the one I saw. Sorry about that. Apparently reading comprehension is important after all.
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  14. woodgrain

    woodgrain In-Dented Savant

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    Still has proper 13-pleat fork gaitors,nice. Someone has replaced the Everbest petcocks with the newer style Karcoma petcocks. These bikes came with battery covers as an option until '74. From late '69 until their demise in '73 the /5 had plated hub caps on both the front and rear wheels. It has period accessories including the seat, which was probably made by the original Bill Mayer(it's a keeper). It's a good looking bike, buy it.

    Woodgrain
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  15. woodgrain

    woodgrain In-Dented Savant

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    Good eye kixstand. Carb air tubes were silver turning golden with use. Also I forgot to mention that carbs seem to have the dreaded black labels. Rumour has it, that some dealers replaced these troublesome bits with none black labelled carbs. Obviously it didn't happen in this case. Still, a very nice example of a /5.

    Woodgrain
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  16. datchew

    datchew Don't buy from Brad

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    man, you guys are good.

    I read his advertisement so i knew about the springs, seat, valvecovers, etc.
    I'm sure i've read at least 3 times on this site about the yellowish color of the original carb tubes, but i didn't even catch it this time.

    Thanks much for the feedback. I'm making a list for when the time comes.

    If I had a garage, it would be mine!!!

    Phil, it's in "Bois D Arc, MO"



    Kixstand, would the crashbars damage the frame because they don't "give" like the ones on my gs? I'd find it surprising that they'd design something like that to protect the valve covers by bending the frame, but you never know. They did make the Ford Pinto afterall.
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  17. ctfz1

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    Careful owners/dealers used tape or tube material or both when mounting accessories as vibration and less precise fit would damage paint/ rust frame. Some never got the word. Some designs reputedly bent or crimped frames, never seen it myself, NOT an authority on crashed bikes. Must have rubber flap bolted to front fender to be period New England. Del Orto power upgrade?
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  18. woodgrain

    woodgrain In-Dented Savant

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    Methinks that if you ended up with a bent frame because of the mentioned 1-piece crash bar you'd not have to worry about it. They'd be taking you away in a body bag. Not to step on kixstand's toes, I think he meant cosmetic damage from attachment to the frame without using any kind of protection for the paint.

    Wooodgrain
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  19. kixtand

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    The main concern I would have is the cosmetic side. From what I can tell, a lot of the time(s) these were installed there was no thought given to the long term wear on the paint, and if thst is the case, there is probably wear by now. Additionally, as someone else noted, if the crash bars were not installed w/ the proper care, then the frame could be crimped, but probably not likely. All in all this is probably not a big deal, but something to look for just in case.

    As far as actually damaging the frame, I have heard, and agree, that the crash bars might actually do more harm than good in a crash. Yes they will protect the cylinders and such, but that may be at the cost of tweaking the frame. In my mind, the valve covers, cylinders, etc are easier to source and replace than a bent/tweaked frame. If the bike has never been wrecked--and by the looks of it, that is the case--then you have no worries. However, if it were me, I would remove the crashbars permanently.

    Just my thoughts--

    kix
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  20. datchew

    datchew Don't buy from Brad

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    So when you talk about cosmetic damage to the frame and how they're attached etc...

    Would you just put some black electrical tape or something between the two pieces to protect them or is there more to it than that?
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