50mm suspension kit for ABS 990?

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  1. alongat

    alongat Long timer

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    As some of may know, KTM sells a 50mm suspension lift kit in their powerparts catalog however they state that its for non-abs equipped bikes only. Does anyone know why and has anyone used this on a newer 990 adv such as a 2012?

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    137 views and no one here knows?
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    Ahhh i´m drunk.

    You should provide the link as i don´t knovv vvhich product you refering to.

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    Since the KTM website sucks, here is the same kit from ktmtwins:

    http://www.ktmtwins.com/ktm-950-990-non-abs-adventure-r-spec-suspension-kit

    Sorry, it's actually a 55mm increase. I through a leg over a new standard 2012 990 adv today and I'm shocked to learn that it's actually lower than my 2004 950 adv. I'm looking to replace my 950 with a new 990 and I can't seem to find any 990Rs left so I thought I'd get a standard one and raise it with this kit but alas...it claims to be incompatible with ABS equipped bikes.
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    I vvould say that more stroke on these bikes vvith the right valving should make it perfect for the more racing offroad. Though if you ride it more roadish, it vvould be better of vvith the right valving.
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  8. cjracer

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    The ABS bikes are low. In order to Raise the LOWER bikes you may also need to replace the chrome sliders as they may be too short and not allow the extra height. I'd check a micro fiche to make sure.

    The earlier 950 std and 950 S had different tubes. I have no idea about the newer 990.

    For example:

    See item #51/52 - ABS bike
    http://www.southeastsales.com/fiche...ry=Motorcycles&make=KTM&year=2012&fveh=137500
    <TABLE id=PartsList border=0 cellSpacing=0><TBODY><TR class=whiterow><TD style="WIDTH: 286px" class=li vAlign=top align=left>AXLE CLAMP LEFT ADV. CPL. 09
    48600872S1

    <TABLE id=PartsList border=0 cellSpacing=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="WIDTH: 286px" class=li vAlign=top align=left>AXLE CLAMP RIGHT ADV. CPL. 09
    48600873S1 </TD><TD style="WIDTH: 42px" class=li vAlign=top align=center>1</TD><TD style="WIDTH: 116px" class=li vAlign=top align=center>$422.49</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

    <TABLE id=PartsList border=0 cellSpacing=0><TBODY><TR class=whiterow><TD style="WIDTH: 286px" class=li vAlign=top align=left></TD><TD style="WIDTH: 42px" class=li vAlign=top align=center></TD><TD style="WIDTH: 116px" class=li vAlign=top align=center></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
    </TD><TD style="WIDTH: 42px" class=li vAlign=top align=center>1</TD><TD style="WIDTH: 116px" class=li vAlign=top align=center>$388.49</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

    Really stinks you can't just buy the tube, at least what I could find in a quick search.

    You may also need to modify the side stand and center stand, unless a longer one that comes stock on the bike is an option from KTM.

    Going this tall WITH ABS may be a liability thing for KTM, I don't know for sure.

    Notice that all the NEW 1190 ADVs are VERY LOW. Lower than the current 990 bikes.

    You may also have to make, or replace all brake lines and wiring with longer parts as the LOWER bike parts can't be stretched that far.

    Just my thoughts off the top of my head.

    Send me an ABS bikes and the kit and I'll see what I can do..... :deal

    Good luck.
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    I believe brake lines are setting the limits. Also sidestand and center stand will need some lengthening.
    Cheers
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    weren't pre 2009 990/950 fork internals different than post 2009?

    I'm aware that later non S 950 models are 210 mm, and 990 ABS are also 210mm, however i think i've read somewhere, that post 2009 (or something close), the internals were different for the ABS 210 models thus required other parts not fully interchangeable with pre 2009 non S models.

    Think i've seen this discussed in another thread that i can't find now.

    also this kit now on sale by KTM, was long awaited, however does not seem to be possible to choose different spring rates..
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    The kit offered by KTM is literally comprised of the parts different on a current 990R versus the 990 Standard. No choices of spring rates but I've ridden a 990R ad love the setup it comes with for my riding. I'm tall and I want that extra travel. I'm also likely to go with a 19/17 setup which will bring it back down a bit and likely take care of the centre and side stand issue - Yes, I am aware that centre and side stands will be short once the bike is raised but I just don't understand KTM's disclaimer with respect to ABS equipped bikes.
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    This link supports my suspicion: KTM did not test / homologate the "taller" bike with ABS - I'm hoping there's no technical reason for "no ABS" for this kit.
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    This is the first time I head of the chrome tubes being longer, and I don't think that is correct. I have quite a few disassembled forks in the garage including LC8s and they are all the same, except the newer (06+?) chrome tubes are a bit tapered on top.

    The longer internals should fit perfectly in any 950/990 ADV/SE set of forks. The would also fit inside all other 48mm open cartridge fork tubes from KTM dirt bikes, but those have shorter upper tubes, so you have less overlap and less support.
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    Have made the swap since new in my 09 white ABS and everything works fine....not with the above kit but by changing internal components in the original forks...plus ofc a new sidestand and center stand...brakelines weren't an issue even with rox risers....
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    That is exactly what I wanted to hear - thank you very much.
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    That's good to hear.....I was considering getting the 265 height with or without the kit (i.e. without the kit so I can custom pick springs for my 240 lb weight and load carrying capacity as I carry 175 lb of gear including Gobi weight but not rack weight) but didn't want to change the valving since I can install parts but am not confident in doing the valving and could also stand to save the money it costs to re-valve.
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    How does it raise the rear?
    The front is easy with the longer cartridges but wouldn't we need a longer shock shaft?
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    For the rear, there's a spacer under the piston that limit the stroke: thick spacer->short stroke, thin spacer->long stroke.
    For the front is more or less the same, but with more stuff involved.

    Lifted my '07 ABS up to 245mm 40000km ago, and i'm very happy with it.
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