6 NEW bikes from Honda USA for 2013

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by DOUBLE-O G, Nov 3, 2012.

  1. cogitate

    cogitate What Marcellus Wallace Looks Like

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    THe owner of a local Honda dealer told me once he would trust his 16 year old daughter in any bike in the showroom before his twenty year old son. Both grew up riding.


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  2. xrcris

    xrcris Been here awhile

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    Slab side gixxer.... :D

    When traffic is going 75, it's nice to have a bike that'll get out of it's own way. In 1988 when i had my Hawk, a Mustang GT made 225 HP, there are Hyundai's that make that much now......thing about horsepower, if you don't need it, you don't have to use it, but when you do need it and it's not there, you're kind of shit out of luck. Gas mileage is great and all, but if it comes down to an extra 25HP, add a gallon or two to the tank to make up that range.

    I'm not sure that it's insurance rates driving the young'uns away from the 600's as much as it is financing, or lack of it. Seems like I've seen more squids on R1's than R6's. Honda seems to have given up the middle ground, whole bunch of entry level bikes (step up TOO the CB500:huh) and a bunch of of cruisers. What good is an open class superbike that is the size of a 600? What good is the 600?
  3. surly357

    surly357 Cochetopa dreamin'

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    the NT650 is cool, but it died as American tastes swung to fully faired sportbikes- no surprise there.

    the GB500 is the coolest Honda ever, but it defines 'niche bike', and is uncomfortable for most riders. It's not surprising it didn't sell, it's surprising they ever imported it to the US in the first place!

    the Nighthawk sold well for years, but was neither fish nor fowl by the end of it's run. too 'UJM' for shoppers demanding identity, it didn't appeal to either the cruiser crowd or to modern semi-standard buyers.

    regardless, they've been gone since 1991, 1990, and 2003- fashions come and fashions go, i don't think a comparison to today's motorcycle market and economy is really that valid...
  4. Navin

    Navin Long timer

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    The recent ER6-n was a practicle and cheap bike and a total flop in the USA. Maybe these will have better luck but I doubt it. The penny pinchers that would be attracted to these, and the Kawi I mentioned, all shop for used bike bargains already.
  5. kpmsprtd

    kpmsprtd Been here awhile

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    And so, Honda, you have brought me my CB1100, in red as it must be, and not unreasonably priced. I have no excuses for not purchasing. Let's get the deal done.
  6. PAULIBIKER

    PAULIBIKER Been here awhile

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    Did I miss the price?
  7. eakins

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    p0diabl0 Been here awhile

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    It was also extremely ugly. Like just god awful, even to those who like naked bikes. This CB500f looks a lot nicer.
  9. xrcris

    xrcris Been here awhile

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    Well, those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it. Personally, I think the RC30 is the coolest Honda ever, but to each their own. I haven't seen American tastes swinging away from fully-faired sportbikes, so I still don't know what market these tiddlers are intended for....

    I had a CB400, which to my eye, they've tried (and failed) to model this retro CB1100 on. I did like the endurance racer version that was floating around, but either of these a niche bike, and I don't see either selling well (see Kwak W650 and ZRX1200).
  10. mrbreeze

    mrbreeze Long timer

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    i think Honda is smart to go for the "frugal" market.

    1 - the pprice of gas is just going to keep rising. I expect $5 / gallon by next summer, $6 / gallon within 3 yrs.

    2 - cars are making great economy gains, the old "i need a bike to save gas" argument is becoming less relevant. my big cruiser gets 38mpg and wants 93 octane.

    3 - insurance, tires, maintenance, parts - all cost less for a 500cc twin than a 100hp 4cyl.

    4 - much of the population (like me) is aging, and doesn't give a hooey about outrunning anyone. give me something easy to handle and fun to ride.
  11. surly357

    surly357 Cochetopa dreamin'

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    I think Honda WANTS to repeat history with the new bikes- their early history where they became a market leader by efficiently producing quality, modestly priced motorcycles that appealed to a wide variety of riders and potential riders.
  12. frog13

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  13. dmac57

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    There's no innovation here. Nothing that raises the pulse. The non-Wings are closer to earlier Civics and Accords than the original Interceptor. The Wing, instead of BNG is BNB; bold new bodywork. Honda's approch is closer to Harley's than their own history: Resurrect the old, and re-wrap last year's stale sandwich.

    Meh. Not *even* meh.
  14. JadeRider

    JadeRider Been here awhile

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    Lots of innovation, quality machines. Really fun to ride.

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  16. cogitate

    cogitate What Marcellus Wallace Looks Like

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    +1. I am still hooked on Hondas since my first ride on a MiniTrail at age 10 in 1970 or so.
  17. dmac57

    dmac57 Long timer

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    And you've ridden how many of the six?

    Seriously. Show me the innovation in the Wing. The CB1100 is clever, but the engine appears to be essentially the same lump from the CB900/750 days. I can understand the reskin of the CBR600RR as that market has contracted dramaticallly. But compare these to the introduction of the Ducati Multistrada, Streetfighter or Hypermotard. To any of the recent KTMs. To the K16 or the new Wasserboxer.

    Things are tough in Japan both post tsunami and post global economic meltdown, but as nice as these bikes may turn out to be, I don't see that any of them will be particularly memorable, and certainly in no way landmark machines.
  18. doxiedog

    doxiedog Been here awhile

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    Where is the cb650,that looks like the cb1100?
  19. BEEF706

    BEEF706 King of the dumb dab

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    I have been looking for some signs of life from Honda, and this is a good start. I really would like to be riding red, but they haven't made a bike I wanted for a while. I have lust in my heart for the CB1100, I may have to break down and get a new bike this summer. If they follow this up with a new street legal CRF450X I could be back on big red all the time. :wink:
  20. GrahamD

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    Like the NC700 series. It's a good option to have around that's not just another HP junkies wet dream. Just a decent practical easy to ride bike.

    The F6B Wing seems like a step back to the more "sensible" era in that bikes evolution, even though it looks a bit fugly to me. I'm just waiting for a revolutionary 4 cylinder boxer again.

    The CB1100 is the Honda Retro bike and if it's good enough for the Europeans to flog retro it's good enough for Honda AFAIK. Its a really good reproduction. Not trying to be a copy but a really good update.

    I think Honda did well this year.