600cc Touring bikes

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by Gypsyangel, Sep 25, 2008.

  1. Gypsyangel

    Gypsyangel Been here awhile

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    I have a Gen1 FZ1 I use for touring,but the bike is very heavy *btw I'm 5'4" and about 115lbs,so it's heavy to me:D ) and not much fun in the tighter twisties. I was thinking about moving back down to around the 600cc range. What are some good smaller touring bikes and does anyone here tour on anything under 1000cc's?
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  2. MoBill

    MoBill Smiles when says dat

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    I'm not very discriminating, don't notice most of the "complaints" that the Princess and the Pea riders notice, so here:

    GS500F (see my "GS500F set up for touring" set in link below)(24+K on this, some long distances covered--a great bike IMO--)

    New bazooki GSX650R (unsung touring hero some say, farkled properly that is) {that link might kinda address that...lazy}

    Kawasaki Ninja 500R, 650, etc--farkled properly (risers etc?), bags.

    Kawi Versys (great bike, IMO, worth a look)

    Suz DL650A Strom (have one, love it, lots of shite available, "faults" are well known and easily farkled)

    Hon VFR800A (certainly a contender but too big for your parameter) Edit, got lazy here with links :)

    KLR650 (what more can you say, a great bike, more dirt oriented than strom)

    That's a good start pehaps...here's real advice: Don't take too much off of what people say bad about bikes in any range...they'll point you to shit you might never notice (Princess and the Pea).

    And here its easy to "waaaa" about all the supposedly unacceptable traits of this over that--go see for yourself.

    See www.twistedthrottle.com and many others for endless list of things to address the faults that you notice and want to manage. Also See: <CITE>www.sport-touring.net</CITE>

    Good luck.
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  3. Dismount

    Dismount Boring bastard

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    An old bandit in that cc range maybe?
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  4. Grainbelt

    Grainbelt marginal adventurer Super Moderator

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    I use a Ninja 650R. The new '09s are supposed to be even better.
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  5. Cat0020

    Cat0020 El cheapo

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    If you prefer inline-4 engines, Bandit 600?

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    90's Yamaha Seca II?

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    Those air/oil cooled bikes might have less weight to haul around.
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  6. Marvin_ADV

    Marvin_ADV Been here awhile

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    I hear the ZZR600 and the YZF600R are both good sport touring bikes in that cc range plus adjustable suspension. The YZF can be had relatively cheap on the used market, they don't make them anymore.
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  7. Grainbelt

    Grainbelt marginal adventurer Super Moderator

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    Adjusted that for you.

    The newer aluminum framed bikes are lighter and tend to use the motor as a stressed member, rather than the heavy double-spar steel frames of old. :thumb
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  8. garandman

    garandman Wandering Minstrel

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    When you say touring, how much luggage capacity do you need? What about wind/rain protection? You don't metion where you live. What's your budget?

    Sounds like the Honda CX500 - shaft drive, available with factory luggage - but it went off the market in the 70's.

    The V-Strom and KLR are too tall. You might check out the Suzuki SV650, which is a smaller bike. Lots of luggage and windscreens available. Much smaller and lighter than the V-Strom, but still has a decent-sized tank and reasonable riding position. ADKBeemer rode one to Cromag and back. Available new or used, in two generations from '99 to present. The newer (2003-on) ones have fuel injection. Seat height is 31" inches or so, you can get lowering links and lower seat if required.


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  9. Grainbelt

    Grainbelt marginal adventurer Super Moderator

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    Givi has that covered.

    The below setup fits the GSF600, Ninja650R, Versys, SV, FZ6, and a few others. 35 litres per side, up to 49 on the top. Thats a lot of stuff.

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  10. dynamos2000

    dynamos2000 is boinking your mom

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    What about your bike's lil brother?

    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/5Cx0fqGJxht4iacZwOK_hA"><img src="http://lh3.ggpht.com/alanwhite123/SHY57NO0oTI/AAAAAAAACOg/d-YHU_Nm9qU/s800/15.jpg" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/alanwhite123/MyFZ">My FZ</a></td></tr></table>
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  11. nytrashman

    nytrashman old and in the way

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    BMW F650GS........put some Jesse bags on it, a top box and a good windscreen (ermax) and your all set. i have ridden mine from NY to WY this past July and it will run all day at 85-90mph and still give good (55+ mpg) gas mileage. dirt/gravel roads are no problem and it handles good in the twisties. these bikes are very reliable and for me they make teh perfect small tourer
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  12. JamesG

    JamesG Rabid Poster

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    She's 5' 4" dude... :deal

    Gypsyangel-
    And of the so called "second tier" 600cc sport bikes are useable. F4i, or the FZ6, current model ZZR600 (ex ZX6R) and YZF600R are good choices. They can be lowered a couple of inches easily, and for your size they scale like a FJR or C14 to an adult male.
    Most can be fitted with clipon rizers to make the reach to the bars not so long

    Another good choice for a medium ST that is on the touring side of the spectrum is a good condition ZX6E or the interum ZZR600 (2003 I think). They have low seat height (30") are very stable and and make a very economical ST bike. Comes with a centerstand and even a locking glove box.
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  13. garandman

    garandman Wandering Minstrel

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    One of Janice's riding buddies found an SV400, which was only sold a couple of years back (I think) in the early 90's.

    Like the SV650, only smaller.....
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  14. robsuzuki

    robsuzuki Adventurer

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    First off, let me say that you are wise IMO to look at bikes under 1000cc. Lot less money, less insurance, etc. I had a 2003 Bandit 600 cc that was absolutely great. Fast, economical, nice bike. I am 6'2" and 210 lbs. I also had a 2003 Suzuki Volusia. that's a cruiser and another great ride for daily commute or long distance. It's 800 cc. Now I have a V-Strom 650. I agree that it is probably too tall. I would look at the Yamaha little brother to yours. Great bike. All bikes here mentioned are worth a look. Good Luck. :clap
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  15. DAKEZ

    DAKEZ Long timer

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    :huh What do you mean they don't make them anymore?

    The YZF6-R is still available. (and will be next year as well)

    The bike I would suggest is the FZ6 or the new FZ6R.
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  16. Gypsyangel

    Gypsyangel Been here awhile

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    All very great suggestions and a few new bikes to consider. I hadn't even thought of the old Seca II before now. I had looked at the Bandit 600 but a: they weigh like 400lbs and b: I hear they're "buzzy" at highway speeds. Also unsure about the long wheelbase on those. I've had the F4i and the EX500.The F4i was great,but put off too much engine heat and gave ya "Honda-butt".
    I like the F650GS but BMW is a little outta my price range right now. I also rode an FZ6 before,but didn't really care for it at the time. Perhaps now that I have the FZ1 it might feel different.
    ANyway, the whole idea is to sell the FZ and pretty much break even buying a smaller bike.So price range would have to be similar. (around $3500 or so). But so many great ideas for smaller tourers. If you can think of any more,keep em coming.
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  17. D-Mac

    D-Mac Been here awhile

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    +1 on the FZ6. Very comfortable (great seating position), plenty of power, tons of farkles, long valve adjustment interval, reliable as hell. Get some risers, CalSci windshield, and the Givi setup if you want to live on the road.
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  18. Skippii

    Skippii Milkshakes, my lad.

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    I find the FZ6 kinda boring in twisties.
    Good touring bike, though, very comfortable, and quite fast...just not exciting.

    The Kawi ZZR600 is more on the fun side of sport touring.
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    This is my 2005 Sv650S. I use it fo [​IMG]rlong distance and commuting, great at both. I can carry up to 100lbs and not even know it is there!
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  20. Skippii

    Skippii Milkshakes, my lad.

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    I think he's talking about the old style 5-valve ones.
    They are similar to the YZF-r6S which is still made.
    Or something like that - I could be totally wrong.
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