650 or 400

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  1. RYANINMICHIGAN

    RYANINMICHIGAN Been here awhile

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    I have been looking at bikes for a while now. I have been bikeless for about 15 years. I used to ride a vmax when I was younger but I am really interested in dual sport. Here is my question. I am kicking around the DR650 (even though I am not crazy about the color this year) I would like to also have the option for supermoto wheels. Would I be better off buying a DRZ supermoto and buying some off road wheels to swap out when I want to ride trails? Or buy a 650 and by some Supermoto wheels? Also I am 6'4 and about 240 lbs. Will there be a noticable power diference?

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  2. dankatz

    dankatz Been here awhile

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    The DRZ is definitely more off road oriented and will need more revs to achieve similar power. It has better suspension, but is worse on the highway and the gearing is worse as well. A DR650 is better on the road and has a milder engine with more torque. If you are talking about trails the DR650 will be fine too, but for very technical stuff the DRZ is better
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  3. GAS GUY

    GAS GUY MILE EATER

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    The DR650 would probably be a better do it all bike, but if you want to do alot of gnarly single track trails then the DRZ.
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  4. Kommando

    Kommando Long timer

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    If you want to run slab for longer distances, go DR650SE with the wide-ratio 5spd, tractor torque, and smooth air/oil-cooled motor. The color is easy to change.

    The DR-Z400S/SM has roughly similar HP, but it needs to be revved a bit more to make it. It's not as torquey and the trans is a close-ratio 5spd. The DR-Z S/SM is approximately 45lb lighter though, the frame is stiffer, and the stock suspension has adjustable damping.

    Many people run either bike in SM configuration. Either one has pretty good aftermarket and can be built from mild to wild. Neither is a great 2up bike, at your size.
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  5. cognugget

    cognugget n00b

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    You want an ol' xr650r :evil
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  6. bobbed06

    bobbed06 Cavalera Conspirator

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    at 6ft 4 and 240lbs u can manhandle any bike u want to ride.

    I am 6ft 235 and have a DRZ 400S.

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  7. cognugget

    cognugget n00b

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    What silencer is that?
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    buls4evr No Marks....

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    Ever consider....none of the above? I think you are an ideal candidate for a Terra 650 from Husqvarna. Those 2 Suzuki designs are just ancient. The newest engine in the DRZ dates from the 90s tech wise! A Husky is cheaper when you look at all of the stuff it comes with stock for similar $$$.
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  9. RYANINMICHIGAN

    RYANINMICHIGAN Been here awhile

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    Nice bike. I am not worried about weather I can handle the bike more like I am worried I will be cramped on it. like a gorilla fucking a football.
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    RYANINMICHIGAN Been here awhile

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    I ride a Suzuki ATV and it has been bullet proof. I will look at Husky though. Thanks.
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  11. toddiscdn

    toddiscdn Take off, EH!

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    This is pretty much what I would say. I had a DRZ for a few years and loved it, once I started travelling longer distances I switched to the DR.

    The DRZ is taller with a better suspension, a higher reving liquid cooled motor and a bit lighter then the DR. The DR may be a bit cramped, but taller bars and shorter pegs will solve that. Id go anywhere on either bike, we regularly load up the DR with camping gear, ride 500 klicks then play in the bush/mud for a couple days then ride home.

    Either will be a great bike, it may get trashed by the euro bikers as old tech., but it just plain works.

    Cheers, Todd
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  12. eakins

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    true 50/50 dual sport, go for the 650
    mostly off-road with some paved to connect go for the 400

    the 650 is a standard type bike that can be ridden most everywhere but becomes heavy in nasty off-road. if you are cruising dirt roads and easy forest roads it's great. the 400 is best in more dirt focused terrain.
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  13. eakins

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    yep the terra would be a great choice
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  14. The Jester

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    Husky Terra engine can be traced back to the original F650 funduro. Way older than DRZ. Nice motor though and a good bike by all accounts.

    I agree with the 650 for 50/50, 400 for road to connect dirt though. 650 is much nicer on the road even if the power figures are similar.
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  15. Kommando

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    I also ride the DR650 as a dirtbike, at 5'8"/200lb, so if you're decently strong don't think that you'll have a tough time handling a 367lb DR offroad at your size...unless you're trying to run race pace or clear triples or something.

    The suspension on almost any dualsport is going to be better for your weight if you upgrade and tune it. Most dualsports seem to be sprung for somebody 150-180lb or so.
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  17. RYANINMICHIGAN

    RYANINMICHIGAN Been here awhile

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    I have been on the 650 and it fine. lighter than my quad. I was only kicking arounf the DRZ cause I can get it in SM and to convert it to off road use would be cheaper than buying a 650 and converting it to SM. the bike will never see the highway, just dirt roads and quick trips ripping aroud town. Prolly ride it to work 42 miles each way a couple times a week but even then I can take back roads the whole way.
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  18. cognugget

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    Even the xt225 does fine on the highway (60mph) I think you will find yourself doing a lot more than originally anticipated one you get the bike! :evil
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