650 V-Strom and wind buffeting issue.

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by OzRogue, Jun 18, 2014.

  1. DR Steve

    DR Steve Been here awhile

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    A mate of mine has the new 650 Wee and has tried a number of aftermarket screens on it without any real improvements.

    I've ridden the bike on several occassions with each different screen and can't wait to get off the bike. The buffeting ruins an otherwise nice bike and he's just about had enough of it - bike will be for sale soon I think.

    Every rider/helmet combo seems to get different results so you need to have a decent test ride prior to purchase.
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  2. mrbreeze

    mrbreeze Long timer

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    I think some people are just more "persnickity" than others. This is my 3rd V-Strom - 09 DL1k, 12 DL650A, 13 DL650A - buffeting was worse on the 09 than either of the newer bikes, but never bad enough to make me consider selling the bike. The Stroms have a lot of good things going for them.

    When I had my old '99 C10, some folks on the COG forum complained about "buzziness", as well as buffeting. The buzziness never bothered me, and a Cee Bailey's screen fixed the buffeting.

    Ride Ride Ride!

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  3. surlywill

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    +1. coming off a KLR the vstrom is much better at wind protection. Raised the stock screen to its highest setting and its fine for me. Too many people who think an ADV bike should be like a touring bike with full fairing. If wind buffeting is that big a problem for you look at a touring bike, you will be happy. Ive ridden BMWs and Triumphs and any cross wind will give you some buffeting..
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  4. DR Steve

    DR Steve Been here awhile

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    It's interesting how varied different riders experience of the same bike can be.

    I actually prefer a naked bike even for full days at highway speed. What I don't like is riding along with my head bobbing from side to side. I really wanted to like the Wee, but thats a deal breaker for me. That said, some of the above comments indicate that the mirrors may be a big contributor, so might try removing them altogether to see the effect. Removal of the handguards was already tested too.
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  5. Soldier311

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    +1. Wind blast is one thing, but head-bobbing buffeting is a PIA.
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  6. devo2002

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    For a bike that is arguably the best bang for your buck, I don't understand crossing the bike off the list/selling it because of buffeting. The fixes have been well documented and can be addressed for $300 tops, some just madstand, which for an amazing bike under $10K out the door with 0% interest currently is peanuts.
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  7. DR Steve

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    I agree it's a great value bike but the documented fixes don't work for everyone. The bike I mention above has had way more than $300 thrown at the issue and it's still not much better. As mentioned above we will try removing the mirrors - hopefully some different mirrors may be the fix for this bike.
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  8. eakins

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    Madstad bracket is the solution as the angle & height of the screen can be fine tuned for each individuals exacts needs. Slight changes in angle produce very noticeably differences, good or bad.

    In addition to using Givi or Madstad shields (Aeroflow) you can also add a laminar lip or MRA top vario spoiler to these shields to create very smooth air at your helmet. At one point Madstad offered their shield with a MRA vario spoiler http://www.twistedthrottle.com/brand/mra-motorcycle-windshields/ attached already. Mark called it the Vstrom solution.

    Your helmet might be the problem too.
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  9. eakins

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    everyone has gotten better mirrors, madstad bracket, givi/madstad screen and maybe a top wind deflector AND then spent time adjusting the angle and height has reported it fixed the problem. not sure why you are coming up short??? maybe it's your helmet too?
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  10. ChuckS

    ChuckS Adventurer Wannabe

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    Yup.

    Madstad, round Ducati mirrors= no buffeting. It did take me a LOT of adjustments to dial in the Madstad.
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  11. DR Steve

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    Apart from the mirrors, already done all of that. Owner has tried 3 different helmets. Results seem to be the same with 3 different riders. Hopefully the mirrors are the missing piece of the puzzle !

    I want him to find the fix - then I'll get a Wee myself and fit all the fixes.
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  12. bleedgrn

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    Reading these types of threads makes me think the V-Strom is the only bike that suffers from buffeting. Being 5'8" 29 inseam the Tuono mirrors, Madstad bracket and windshield fixed "my" buffeting issues and made the cockpit much quieter. A friend rides the DL adventure with the MRA vario and I find the cockpit very quiet with little buffeting. There is a guy on Stromtroopers who is selling little deflectors that mount to the side of the front fairing for the "picky eater". I have ridden a lot of bikes and short of a touring bike, most have some buffeting. Hope those who need help with this issue find it.
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  13. MariusD

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    Those deflectors seem to be the missing link for a lot of people. I'll either make some or buy from one of the people who sell them.
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  14. orestis

    orestis Time flies when riding

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    A link of those deflectors please?
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  15. Bultaco206

    Bultaco206 Back-to-back motos suck

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    I tried every windscreen known to man. Finally found what worked for me was a short Zero Gravity sport screen on a Madstad bracket. The final piece of fine-tuning came with Aprilia mirrors.

    I'm a little different. I started my baseline testing by taking the stock screen completely off, which is fabulous by the way, but offers no real protection. Smooth air everywhere. Then knowing I wanted protection, started from there with my adjustments and settled on what worked best for me. Outside of occasional dirty air from minivans and SUVs in the right conditions, I'm pleased with my setup.

    A lot of people make the mistake of thinking a bigger windscreen is better, when in all actuality less is more on these bikes.
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  16. Motor7

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    They are Vortex Generators. You can make them yourself, or buy them on fleabay:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/111233447558?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

    If you put your hand down on that "corner" of the tank on each side you will feel a very strong current of air at speed coming over and into your chest. The right side is stronger than the left side current(at lest on my bike). The VG's placed on the tank ahead of this current will break it up which will help create more of a void of air current.

    I am waiting for my "tall" custom Fisher seat to arrive before I even look at buffeting. I am ditching the stock mirrors for Emgo's anyway, but right now with Madstad & 22" Givi.....some buffeting at 70+ and it all comes up from my knees. To be honest, it's not that big of a deal to me unless it gets worse.
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  17. Pecha72

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    " I'm a little different. I started my baseline testing by taking the stock screen completely off, which is fabulous by the way, but offers no real protection. Smooth air everywhere. Then knowing I wanted protection, started from there with my adjustments and settled on what worked best for me "

    spot on.

    building a bigger "wall" ahead of you, often just ends up creating more turbulence.

    I've actually seen a Wee with TWO windshield, the upper one fastened to the lower by duct tape.... :lol3
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  18. AZstrommer

    AZstrommer Long may she wave!

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    I have an 04 Wee. After moving the screen up, down and damn near sideways, I settled on 3/4" spacers to kick the bottom mounts out farther and the screen as high as it would go. I spent $5.00 on a 4"x 8" chunk of lexan and two spring clamps to hold it in place. I centered it on the top of the screen and all my turbulence troubles went away. It looks ghetto but it has been on there five years and 30,000 miles now. I'm 5'10 and wear an Arai XD.

    AZ
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  19. MariusD

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  20. NDTransplant

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    Buffeting can be a frustrating, time-consuming, expensive, trial & error endeavor...or trying to eliminate it, I should say.

    Lots of guys are happy with the MadStad, and I think he has a money-back guarantee as well...
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