74 Guzzi Eldorado

Discussion in 'Old's Cool' started by edfetz, Oct 13, 2011.

  1. danedg

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    It doesn't seem beefy enough. It's like 18-16 gauge wire. I thought it must be the horn....
    I'm not aware of a relay anywhere?

    There, underneath the master cylinder.

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  2. danedg

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    Moto Guzzi Riding Position


    the large "police" or California handlebar for Eldorado, Ambassador. Positions your hands for a riding position similar to that of a roto-tiller.

    MGCycle
  3. MZRider

    MZRider Neo-Luddite

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    Nick is correct. Starter button wiring. Blue/blk - power from fuse block, brown - power to the relay. It doesn't need to be any "beefier" since there is a relay mounted back under the voltage regulator.
  4. danedg

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    I appreciate your input.
    The button doesn't show on any of the parts dios that I have.
    I've been debating replacing the wire harness but it seems rather specific to the bike.
  5. MZRider

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    The starter button is shown with other electrical equpment, not with the handlebars and controls where you'd expect it. It's #55 on Tavola/Plate 17 of the spare parts catalog:
    http://thisoldtractor.com/gtbender/mg_manuals/spare_parts_catalog_850_1ed.pdf

    Greg Bender sells excellent replacement harnesses - every single piece to replicate the original harness.
    http://thisoldtractor.com/gtbender/for_sale_wiring_harness.htm
    He also offers a harness to add headlight relays as well, something Guzzi never had.
  6. sjc56

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    Thumbs up on Greg Benders harness, I replaced a lot of wire with his on my 74, they are first class and he has installation instructions on his web site that are top notch.
  7. England-Kev

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    Ah the old starter button, now I notice that this is not all it seems in Guzzi world, when I got my 70 Ambo I noticed when researching on the web etc, that my bike never had one, I mentioned it over on my thread here... http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=841764
    So I found and bought one from ebayland, and had intended to fit it at a later date. But, it would seem I had made a basic error, most of the info on the WWW, is from American sources, but my bike is an Italian home market bike, and as such has a few subtle differences, probably because they wanted to use up parts from older models.
    My bike has a starter ignition switch, just like a car, turn it over and it starts:clap no push button needed, if you look closely you will also see other things, rear light, seat pattern, carb clamps.

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  8. danedg

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    Wanna sell it? Mine is REALLY crusty and it looks like I'm going to have to cut it off the bars. The Allen head is stripped.
  9. England-Kev

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  10. F_Sahms

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    The switch on V7 Sports can also start like a car, by turning past the "run" setting, but it has a starter button as well. I am not sure if my Eldo does it too.
  11. danedg

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    I'm at a slight disadvantage having never ridden this bike or any like it.. no owners manual. It's got a keyed switch back left and all sorts of buttons and knobs on the dash and now up pops another starter switch!:D
    I'm all over Gregs website. Bless his heart!
    In the meantime I'll continue to take many photos:

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    and rely on you guys to ask the really dumb questions:clap
  12. Bloodweiser

    Bloodweiser honestly

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    That's how I rigged up my ambo.
  13. danedg

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    before this key gets turned again (in anger):D

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    But I'll check it tomorrow to see if it has that momentary..

    I just ASSUMED! that it did.
  14. nick949eldo

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    Danedg - starting process for my 74 Cali.

    Put key in switch by your left thigh.
    Turn it on (one click to the right)
    On the dash, lift black knob on the right (at about 2 o'clock) up
    Put your thumb on the horn-like switch under the throttle
    Push.

    The motor should turn over, assuming all the wiring's connected and you have a battery.

    Nick
  15. danedg

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    The motor should turn over, assuming all the wiring's connected and you have a battery.


    ...and a motor,tranny and a few other bits:lol3

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  16. nick949eldo

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    Yep - that might help too. :poser

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  17. danedg

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    I pulled, cleaned, refreshed. lubed and want to install new rebuild kit in correct order.

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    Plastic plug, spring,cylinder, flat washer, ...check.
    Then gasket and cupped washer?
    What should I be seeing from the handle side? Washer or gasket?
  18. danedg

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    This ought to illustrate better what I THINK should be the correct order for the cylinder.
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    Missing on the left is the plastic "t" plug, then the spring, then the cylinder, then the flat washer.
    Then the rubber gasket with the flange to the right and the cupped washer fitted over the rubber gasket.
    The cupped washer has an enlarged edge that points to the right.
    This can then be pressed into the housing and then prevents the whole assembly from popping out due to the spring and/or hydraulic pressure.?
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  20. England-Kev

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