950 A Front end differences...

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  1. KEELAYMONSTER

    KEELAYMONSTER BRRAAAAPPP!!!

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    Anyone know the difference between a 950 Adventure and 950 SE front end? I bought a used set of wheels for a SE and wanted to convert them for an Adventure. Any help would be appreciated.

    Thanks, :D:ear
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  2. Mudguts

    Mudguts when in doubt GAS IT

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    Valving and springs the SE uses .60 the ADV uses a.52 the SE also has slight different steering geometry .
    If you have aADV get your self some SE springs world of difference ,

    Wheels SE single rotor Adv twin rotor ,

    You can convert the ADV to single rotor cheaply but way more expensive to convert SE to twin rotor
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  3. KEELAYMONSTER

    KEELAYMONSTER BRRAAAAPPP!!!

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    I already have it converted to single rotor. Do you know if the front axle/forks are the same? I know it's a different spring rate. What about rear end? Are the rear wheels and swing arm the same?
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    The rear is a direct replacement . . . Front axle diameter is the same.
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  5. KEELAYMONSTER

    KEELAYMONSTER BRRAAAAPPP!!!

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    Hmmmm. Well I think the set of wheels I got aren't for an SE then. The front is a smaller axle. Rear has different spacers. Otherwise I think it will work. Looks like ill be calling RAD wheels tomorrow.
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    Just use spacers from advenventure on both ends and it will work.
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  7. Konflict Motorsports

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    The axles and fork lugs are not the same. Super Enduros share similar axle lugs with the smaller KTMs (150 to 690) with a machined groove for the speedo pickup. Adventures have there own fork lugs to accommodate the larger axle.
    Adventures come stock with .48kg for springs, Super Enduros come with .59kg. Valving spec's between the two are drastically different.
    Can you post some pictures of the wheels, it's fairly easy to spot the differences.
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  8. KEELAYMONSTER

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    Ill get some pics on tomorrow. Do you know if the spacing for the rotors is th same?
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    Adv - Front 30mm
    SE - Front 26mm
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  10. LukasM

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    As KaaJa, you just need the right wheel spacers for your model, then they will fit. The bearings and hubs are the same except for the second disc flange on the front.
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    KEELAYMONSTER BRRAAAAPPP!!!

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    Alright here are some pics. Front is definitely a smaller axle. Ill try and get some more comparative pics

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    Looks like a nice set of RAD Mfg wheels for a Super Enduro. I'm viewing these pictures on an iPhone, but pretty sure they fit the SE.
    Nice wheels!
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    KEELAYMONSTER BRRAAAAPPP!!!

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    Right on. Thanks. So is there a way to adapt them for my adventure? Maybe different bearings/center spacer?
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    I'd give RAD a call, they will be able to break it down for you. I would think you could swap the spacer's for it to work but never tried. Best of luck to you!
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    KEELAYMONSTER BRRAAAAPPP!!!

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    Thanks! Ill do that. Ill post whatever I find. If they don't work then expect to see a set of wheels for sale.
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    Put me at the front of the list if it doesn't work out, but I think it will for you.
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    The folks at RAD are awesome! They did the research and apparently All Balls stocks a set of bearing that will allow a 30 mm axle. A stock SE is 26mm and an adventure is 30mm. I have RAD making my spacers to spec. On another note the rear wheel from an SE is not a direct replacement. The only difference is the spacer on the disc side is narrower. I'm not sure what the SE has for a rear brake but my guess is its a different caliper/caliper bracket. Or the swing arm is just wider on the SE.

    Here are my measurements and part numbers for bearings and seals to convert (Note: this is only for RAD hubs. The front is a single disc hub and rear is different from adv).

    All Balls numbers:
    Bearings x2: 20-1024
    Seals x2: 30-5210

    EDIT:
    Front spacers:
    RH: .292" no shoulder
    LH: .635" no shoulder
    Center spacer should be the same length just bigger ID to accommodate the 30mm axle.

    Rear spacer (disc side)
    .65" with no shoulder
    Sprocket side is the same

    Ill keep everyone updated on the progress.
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  18. max2

    max2 Been here awhile

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    I think you should sell them to me!!....way to much work:evil
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    KEELAYMONSTER BRRAAAAPPP!!!

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    :roflIf they do go up for sale Konflict will be the first to know. Ill put you down for second in line though :lol3
    Ill be giving All Balls Racing a call today to order the bearings.
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  20. KEELAYMONSTER

    KEELAYMONSTER BRRAAAAPPP!!!

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    So...$30 later and the bearings and seals are on their way :clap Oh Joy!!! More great customer service from All Balls Racing.

    Im used to people begrudging my attempts at customization. Some people are just too close minded. Its nice to deal with people that are willing to think a bit out of the box and help someone. RAD and All Balls are those kind of people. Defintiely will do business with them again.
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