950 Super Enduro "Quick Question(s)" Thread...

Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by WARRIORPRINCEJJ, Jun 20, 2010.

  1. pfdskipper

    pfdskipper Westside Trash

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    Heres a link to my subframe failure story. http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=558791

    Got the new subframe beefed up prior to instal, 20,000 miles later, no problems at all.

    The common failure point can be seen here:

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  2. DavidKXF

    DavidKXF Been here awhile

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    The reason I painted the rear part black.
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  3. frickenmotarded

    frickenmotarded Been here awhile

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    Awesome! Thanks for the link and pics, I prefer preemptive to reactive modification.
  4. stevh0

    stevh0 Super Retard.

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    So I ripped the tank off today and then tested the fan, which worked fine mind you. My overflow bottle seemed good for level so initially I thought my radiator coolant level would be okay. NOT

    It took at least 500ml of coolant. Fired the bike up and it idled forever to get the fans to come on, which they did. So, great, everything works. But how did I lose the coolant? I dont have a leak.


    Can anybody suggest a less painful way of checking your radiator level without stripping the bike?
  5. grant22

    grant22 Been here awhile

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    How many miles on the bike? Any white smoke from the pipes? Have you checked the oil for coolant contamination or your oil filter for wavy pleats? All signs of coolant transferring to the oil.
  6. stevh0

    stevh0 Super Retard.

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    No smoke, oil is clean and so is the filter. This is a mystery. Lol
  7. mookymoo

    mookymoo Mookish Mook

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    When I saw your first post I was going to reply "check your radiator level" - I had exactly the same issue.
    The problem is the radiator cap not functioning properly. Replace it.
  8. stevh0

    stevh0 Super Retard.

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    It's brand new. Like probably 200 miles.

    Should I replace it again?
  9. stevh0

    stevh0 Super Retard.

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    Just to get things straight. The fan won't come on if there is not sufficient water in the radiator.

    If the bike was run with no water or low water would freeway riding get the temps to normal ie 4 bars or will it still run hot.
  10. mookymoo

    mookymoo Mookish Mook

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    Hm.

    Well, you are likely losing some coolant via your water pump seal.
    There may or may not be evidence in the oil. In my case the filter was barely perceptibly wavey.

    However, if you are losing coolant, then the rad cap should be sucking coolant back in from the reservoir container. If its not, theres something wrong there. In my case, I replaced the rad cap and it started sucking back coolant like it was supposed to. At least I could see how much I was consuming.
  11. mookymoo

    mookymoo Mookish Mook

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    Correct.
    The temp switch that brings the fan on is measuring water temp. If theres no water, there is nothing to activate it.

    Depends a lot on the ambient temperatures. It will run hot - but I was surprised just how much air cooling there was. In mild ambient temps (22deg C) gentle riding had the temps down to 4-5 bars. A hill climb would bring it up.
  12. stevh0

    stevh0 Super Retard.

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    The coolant moves up and down in the res tank. I was just a little shocked with the res tank was on its mark and the radiator needed a lot of coolant (bike was cold)


    Is the radiator cap accessible with the stock tank? I cant see myself being able to top it up with the safari tank (without taking the thing off)

    Im going to go do another 2-300km ride, park it for the night and then check the level the next day. Its the only way Id be able to see if there are any issues. I might as well do an oil change sometime again soon too.
  13. pfdskipper

    pfdskipper Westside Trash

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    Was the coolant level ok 200 miles ago when the cap was replaced?

    I too have the safari tank. I can take my cap off just fine with the tank mounted. A little speculation here BUT, are you sure that you haven't somehow damaged your radiator? Perhaps your radiator has taken a hit, which would explain the cap removal issue, and now has a subtle leak :dunno

    What skid plate are you using? Some other safari owners have damaged their radiators at the bottom when using the BDCW plate.
  14. BENRON

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    How long are your Clutch's lasting?

    I've got about 30K miles on my SE and I don't know if the clutch has ever been done...
  15. Freakingreen

    Freakingreen They make used stuff every day.

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    My SE would drop coolant level for a while and I found it to be the large T in the coolant hose between the pump and the rad. Most of the time it was dry but the very odd time it had moisture around the edge of one of the hoses. I replaced the factory clamps with good quality gear clamps and my level has never moved again. Not an easy thing to detect while riding or sitting cool in the shop. Right time right place to find it.
  16. grant22

    grant22 Been here awhile

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    Anyone here run aftermarket pipes and NONE of the stock adhesive heat shielding with ok results?

    I ask cuz I'm replacing rear plastics (after a subframe failure) and there's about $50 worth of heat shielding. I figure since the fmf's run so much cooler, the heat shield pieces are unnecessary.

    Any advice?
  17. JRod152

    JRod152 will work for tires

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    I had the same dilemma when I ordered new plastics. I bought the heat shields,but wish I didn't.

    Just use some reflectix or foil / foam tape from home depot, etc. If you need an adhesive if not using a "tape", SealAll works great. Reflectix works great for making cooking-pot cozies too, to conserve stove fuel when rehydrating meals!

    The foil / foam tape works great too under fuel tanks that dont permeate fumes. More insulative value than just foil tape, fwiw.
  18. grant22

    grant22 Been here awhile

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    Kewl, thx JRod
  19. wpbarlow

    wpbarlow Long timer

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    37k miles on my SE. 48k miles on my 950SM. Both are original and both seem to be fine.
  20. johnno950

    johnno950 Long timer

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    Mate i got a set of akros on the se,i have not got the heat insulation shielding fitted (new oem rear cowl) and there has been no melting or heat damage done to my bike.