950 Supermoto Chronicles

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by wpbarlow, Jul 20, 2006.

  1. 900rider

    900rider Been here awhile

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    I retested the battery before I went to be last night.

    0v. Battery is toast.

    The big question is why.
  2. nattyMo

    nattyMo Been here awhile

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    Sounds like a nice little combo of problems, sorry to hear of your troubles.

    Seems like your fuel pump isn't working. Have you thought to check the float bowls? I'll bet they're dry.

    The electrical issue/s sounds like either you batter and/or voltage regulator may have gone south too.

    I happen to have my original fuel pump and a spare battery, if you want to try either before spending your $$$ let me know. Send me a PM if you're interested.

    I'd try a known good battery, if you still don't hear the fuel pump click and it still won't start, I'd try a known good pump provided the battery is turning the motor over.

    NM

  3. angustoyou

    angustoyou Adventurer

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    Check this out, http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23741

    Our European bikes get an Electronic Power Control, which effectively reduces the speed that the slides rise in second and third gear. It's designed to quiet the engine down when accelerating in 2nd and 3rd, where our noise level tests are carried out. Of course it also slows acceleration slightly.

    The wires telling the ECU that you are in second or third, and so when to activate the power control, are alongside the neutral wire that comes from your gear selection. I'd guess that you don't have these, in the same way as we don't have the evaporative loss charcoal thing in the tail. Snip these wires, and the ECU never finds out you're in second or third...
  4. 900rider

    900rider Been here awhile

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    Next step will be a good battery. It's looking like my battery tender may have some hand in this. I called Battery Tender and asked about output voltage and they said it shouldn't be any more than 15.5v and mine showed 16.7. Can't be good for the battery.

    I think this whole time my battery was just smoked and the tender was really running the bike (headlights etc) but not enough output to run the pump and start it. It wasn't long after I pulled the battery that it dropped to 0.0v on the meter.
  5. 9secondsflat

    9secondsflat Been here awhile

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    so the clicking is a good thing? is that the pump priming the system?

  6. 900rider

    900rider Been here awhile

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    Yes. If pressure is down it will click (work the diaphram back and forth to pressurize the system)

    If it doesn't click the system is already at the correct pressure.

    Or your pump is fragged.

    ;)
  7. EastSideSM

    EastSideSM Isn't that dangerous?

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    Yes, and if it keeps clicking, well then you have run out of gas. Don't ask how I know this...Ok, I'll tell you. I have run out of gas. A few weeks ago I was thinking, boy I have gotten great mileage out of this tank of gas, right before i coasted to a stop...(come to find out my low fuel indicator isn't working!!!) Then like an idiot, I had only put in a couple of gallons, reset the odo and totally forgot I only put in 2 gallons and ran out of gas with 65 miles on the odo and it took me a bit to remmeber that I hadn't had a full tank, and was wracking my brain at first wondering what in the hell is wrong with the bike to run out of gas so quick and started looking for leaks etc.
  8. 9secondsflat

    9secondsflat Been here awhile

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    is it a true clicking sound or is it a du, du, du sound? I have heard some other 950's make this sound and its when you first turn the key on prior to starting

  9. omnivore

    omnivore SuperSportTourer

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    So, a KTM dealer and suspension specialist here in Canada is Enduro Engineering.

    I sent him an email asking about internally lowering the forks and shock of the 950SM...and he quoted me $350 inlucing a full shock and fork service.

    Good price?
  10. Garry

    Garry Old and In The Way

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    900rider: I just replaced the battery in my SMR and have the (working) original battery just sitting on a shelf. If you want it, meet me in Cranberry and it's yours (I work within sight of I-79).

    RE: fuel pump priming
    Yes, it's more a muted noise than a click and they are pretty fast when the system pressure is low (like sitting for a few days). When my pump was going, the number of clicks at key-on was under 10 and slower than normal.
  11. 6USMC6

    6USMC6 R.I.P. Party Boss

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    I paid over $600 for mine so I'd say it's good.
  12. omnivore

    omnivore SuperSportTourer

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    Now his email said "Including a full service", which I assume to be fluids, seals, nitro, etc...I don't think there is any re-springing or re-valving in that.
  13. KHVol

    KHVol Long timer

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    Local Ducati shop "lowered" a friends DRZ400SM....all he did was go in and cut the springs an inch.....not good. ( Ya gotta also be concerned with the new swingarm angle and ya can't lower it w/o messing that up a bit)
  14. preppypyro

    preppypyro Been here awhile

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    Make sure ya let us know what ya end up coming up with for a price. I would like to get mine revalved as well, and am always looking for a good deal!
  15. 900rider

    900rider Been here awhile

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    It's not the Battery Tender. I checked it against a known good one and the output was the same on both. I have reason to believe I may have gotten a faulty reading on my meter because of a low battery.

    Looking pretty hard at the battery as the culprit.
  16. omnivore

    omnivore SuperSportTourer

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    I told him I expected an internal block made up for lowering the right way.....yah I realize the swingarm angle will be a little off, but after all, it's just a streetbike. It's not like I can ride anywhere near the bike's limits on the street (that's why I have racebikes,LOL), so I am prepared to sacrifice a little. I already only ride on touring tires and still drag hard parts, so being honest, the bike has all kinds of shortcomings that limit it already...I don't think the swingarm angle will be a dealbreaker.
  17. 6USMC6

    6USMC6 R.I.P. Party Boss

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    His original post:
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    Originally Posted by omnivore [​IMG]
    So, a KTM dealer and suspension specialist here in Canada is Enduro Engineering.

    I sent him an email asking about internally lowering the forks and shock of the 950SM...and he quoted me $350 inlucing a full shock and fork service.

    Good price?"

    His original email "asked about lowering the forks and shock" which is precisely what I had done. My suspension work did in fact include springs, re-valving and modifying the shock (the only way to lower a WP shock that I am aware of). As Keith says, simply cutting the spring isn't going to get it.
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  18. EastSideSM

    EastSideSM Isn't that dangerous?

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    Latest arrival date is May 7th. Do not hold your breath. I couldnt wait so I am driving to Maine thursday to pick up a nice XR400R from another inmate. It looks pretty solid. Psyched to have a proper dirt bike so I wont do something stupid to the SM. Which Im sure will happen eventually. It is tagged and has a light kit so I can register it for the stret here to get to some spots nearby. Should be a fun summer.
  19. 6USMC6

    6USMC6 R.I.P. Party Boss

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    Where are you getting a May 7th date from?

    I just received this from Continental in Europe:

    "Your recent inquiry was forwarded to the Two Wheel division of Continental Tire the Americas.
    The 120/70-17 and 180/55-17 Trail Attacks are now in production. The rear tire has just started to arrive
    in the US. The front will arrive by about end May. The same sizes in the TKC80's are still in R&D and
    have not yet been released into production. As of today, we expect to have these tires here in the
    US by mid summer. We do not sell direct to the dealer level. Please continue to check with your local
    dealer for availability. He will be able to order these tires from his distributor.

    Thank you for your interest in Continental motorcycle tires.
    "

    If you have a better source I sure could use it.
  20. EastSideSM

    EastSideSM Isn't that dangerous?

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    customerservice@americanmototire.com

    His name was Vaughn

    I contacted them in January and originally was told mid february, then at that time 1-2 weeks and then end of March and now this. So I am not putting much faith in the May 7th date and at this point I probably will put another set of syncs on the bike if I can find a set, apparently they are discontinuing them.

    Hence the XR purchase. Been wanting one for a while. Let's hope it is as good as it sounds/looks online.