950 Supermoto Chronicles

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by wpbarlow, Jul 20, 2006.

  1. mcmann

    mcmann Motorcycle Maniac

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    To reduce heat on your legs during the hot summer:

    I zip tied Polyethylene inserts in the frame (from a cutting board) . . . Works great:

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  2. geoffh

    geoffh Adventurer

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  3. samppa2005

    samppa2005 Adventurer

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    If you do that you propably have to move your regulator/rectifier. It could get fried easily when trapping the heat under the seat. Unless those pieces direct more air to the reg.
  4. KHVol

    KHVol Long timer

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    Your bike should run considerably cooler in the engine compartent area because of the Akro's...hence less damage to the VR...
  5. samppa2005

    samppa2005 Adventurer

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    I think that, while driving, the air to the reg flows from where the plates are. If you put the plate there, the air around the reg might become static? Might be just paranoia :freaky but i think still worth checking.
  6. geoffh

    geoffh Adventurer

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    I got a call yesterday that my bike was finally fixed.

    Turns out that when it was put back together the first time, the wires on the left side running from crankshaft to CDI were not put properly back in place. This led to one of them rubbing against the engine case and eventually wearing through the insulation and shorting out.

    It's been only about 80 miles but it seems fine now. Man, what a difference coming off the loaner Honda Shadow!
  7. mcmann

    mcmann Motorcycle Maniac

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    Fixed: Voltage Regulator/Rectifier/lower leg heat shield.

    There is a gap (top left) that allows air to flow freely past the VR:

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  8. mousitsas

    mousitsas Long timer

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    I have relocated mine on the shock nitrogen container. It gives the R/R a much wanted exposure on the airstream.
    BTW your heat solution is very nice!
  9. MotoSteve

    MotoSteve Functioning Motard

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    Good luck to you iammemares. :freaky


  10. wiseblood

    wiseblood Hall Monitor

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    For anyone who is considering the Safari 30 liter tank on their SMR: I just completed the installation this weekend.

    Full photo set of installation:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/jerlbaum/sets/72157634176661722/


    Size comparisons:

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    From seating position:

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    Video walk-around, OEM tank:

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    Video walk-around, Safari tank:

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    Completed installation:

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    Installation was OK. Fit was a bit annoying -- tank really had to be coerced to fit the mount points. The supplied metal brace which connects to the oil tank mount under the radiator was a bitch to get in, and definitely rubs up on the rad. Let's just say, removing the tank will be even more of a PITA than it was before.

    Fit & finish is... meh. Definitely not OEM finish, and supplied panels are kinda wonky in how they mate up. Pretty much, tank serves the purpose of doubling the range, but it looks like what you'd get if you went for a bigger tank for your off-road enduro bike. Not nearly the polish you'd want for a street bike.

    One other thing: Instruction say to clean out the tank with some gas prior to installation. Don't skip this step! There was an amazing amount of plastic debris inside:

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    Suffice it to say, if I have a fueling problem, I'll be sure to check the screens on the fuel taps first! Fortunately, the tank was well thought-out enough to make those easily accessible.


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  11. wpbarlow

    wpbarlow Long timer

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    Good luck to you and your son iammemares.

    Glad they found the problem, geoffh.

    And Jesse-- nice work with the tank.
  12. ridemorestressless

    ridemorestressless Adventurer

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    I just had a brand new fuel pump and fuel tank put on due to how bad the tank was expanding. KTM replaced the tank at their expense, I paid labor and for a new fuel pump. My tank was so badly expanded that it could not line up with the rear mounting hole. I tried everything, and the dealer tried for a long time also. At the end of the day it was a big safety issue to be riding without the rear mount bolt installed, and the seat fwd seat mount bolt barely threaded in.

    On a separate issue, I am getting inconsistent throttle response and once the bike heats up it runs very poorly. Lots of bogging, sputtering, missing. I am going to do a full charging system check to figure out what is on.

    I have been searching the forum and found these 3 great links, by nattmo and slackerdaddy.

    Troubleshooting flowchart
    http://www.electrosport.com/technical-resources/diagnosis-center/fault-finding-guide

    Multimeter Basics
    http://www.genebitsystems.com/david/MotorcycleElectrical/index.htm

    Mosfet voltage regulator, and stator rebuild

    http://ricksmotorsportelectrics.com/results

    http://ricksmotorsportelectrics.com/proddetail.php?prod=10-014H&pmc=MDdLVE05NTBTTVI=

    I will start with load testing the battery, then follow the above procedures.

    I will start there and if all is well, I will check the ecu connections, the ignition coil connections, and the spark plug condition, seating, condition, gap. I am going to leave that for last since I need to take off the radiator to reach the front plug.

    Just figured other might have this issue and the troubleshooting flow chart is very helpful to a charging system newbie.
  13. wiseblood

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    Some more info: Today was my first day riding with the new tank. No leaks, or nuttin. I purposely did NOT fill it beyond what was taken from my OEM tank. I wanted to know when the reserve comes on.

    Initial Impressions:

    • Definitely makes the seat area wider. Feels more like my Tiger 1050 now. :lol3
    • Doesn't feel any heavier. No difference in handling, so far.
    • No new noises or rattling. Pretty solid feeling.
    • I need to reset my steering lock. New tank doesn't have quite as much clearance as the OEM tank.

    As far as reserve: At appears to come on right around 2 gallons remaining. :clap

    Oh, and:

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    I can honestly say I've never put so much fuel in a motorcycle before. After filling up with 25 lbs more fuel than ever before, the only difference I've noticed is that stoppies are easier. :augie
  14. JohnE65c

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    Glad to hear all is well, geoffh. Good riding.
  15. wcohl

    wcohl Been here awhile

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    I added a Givi bag to the rear. I started with this;

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    And ended up with this

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    I made the rack from a plate for an FJR and a little time with a cut-off wheel

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    I have to learn to bend my leg a little more when getting off.
  16. mrdirtbikerider

    mrdirtbikerider Husaberg rider

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    OAT pic of bike with Conti's TK80's
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  17. dobbs

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    ^Nice!

    I am really interested in your setup. I've been thinking seriously about getting some TKC's and doing some off-road camping. I'm not dumb enough to try to ford mud bogs or rock climb with the bike, but I would like to ride gravel/dirt roads and occasional sand without feeling like the bike is on marbles.

    So have you hit any deep sand (not dunes) and what do you think of the TKC's?
  18. mrdirtbikerider

    mrdirtbikerider Husaberg rider

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    Tk80's. The back tire is pretty good. I've rode everything from deep sand, dirt, pea gravel, deep gravel, pavement. Even some heavy rock crawling. I did get two punktures in the rear tire. Even tho the rear tire performed well, I will not trust them again on long trips because they are a thin tire, prone to flats. The front was ok till used in gravel. Didn't want to turn, tried to wash out and pushed in all corners. Part of this is due to the 17" front tire size and wide width.
    A 20" front wheel is a must! The 17" front is horrible in sand and deep gravel. The knobbies only help a small amount .
    I'm currently looking for thicker ply tires and a 20" front set up.
    I took the bike on one road about a mile long and to say it was rough is an under statement. It was All rocks, the size of pineapples. It was a true test of the bikes Offroad capabilities. It done very well. I was surprised that my rims didn't get bent because it was extremely rough.
    As long as you don't ride in sand and med to heavy gravel the TK 80's are ok at best and they do wear Very fast. The rear has 1k miles on it and is at 50%.
  19. dobbs

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    Thanks for the report, i sorta figured that the performance would be about what you experienced. I'd be interested in a larger front wheel, but I wonder if it would clear the radiator at full compression. I guess it would just take a few tests.

    I know there's someone on here that's running a 19" front. I wonder if that would be worth it?
  20. mrdirtbikerider

    mrdirtbikerider Husaberg rider

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    I think it would definitely help, especially if its a little bit more narrow.
    On my last long ride, the oil sight tube cracked and started to leak. Small oil leak. The crack was very small and hard to see. I just replaced it with a new one from Munn racing.
    I also used the recommended Motorex oil in the bike for the first time. Been using Motul since new. Motorex might be good oil but makes the transmission feel like crap. Shifting feels totally diffrent. I think I'm going back to Motul.