990 Dakar 2011 or 2013 990 Baja edition?

Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by KFhunter, Feb 5, 2013.

  1. KFhunter

    KFhunter Adventurer

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    Bit of a difference in price yes, worth it?

    I do like the Baja!

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  2. everetto

    everetto Been here awhile

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    My vote is for the Baja, mine is on order. My girlfriend already named it just from the picture - The Beast (she actually hates how it looks, but I sure don't).
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  3. el queso

    el queso toda su base

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    I would think there's a pretty big difference in price between to two. I'd go for the '11 Dakar and use the saving to buy your own luggage system, a bash plate, side stand relocator and hand guards. You'd probably still be $2000 ahead.
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  4. alongat

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    '11 Dakar is essentially "R" height suspension but with ABS and some "limited edition exclusivity" as well, right?
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  5. bigdave-gs

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    From what I've read, it's the same height as the standard Adventure. It has a different seat, comes with a tank bag and tail bag, has a GPS mount, knobbie tires and a different rear sprocket, and a limited Baja sticker.
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  6. everetto

    everetto Been here awhile

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    It, being the Baja, not the 11 Dakar - as you stated, and also auxiliary driving lights, a larger rear rack, aluminum radiator protector, and no ABS.
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  7. sstewart

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    What kind of prices are out there?
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  8. KFhunter

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    The Baja is in the catagory "if you gotta ask, you can't afford it" because the stealership has no price listed for it.
    I'm assuming $15,xxx ish

    The Dakkar is $13,xxx for a 2011 hold over with lackluster engine performance when compared to the other flagship adventure bikes seems a bit steep.


    Besides the additional bolt on goodies for the Baja, what is the differences? Does the Baja have the same engine mapping and rev limiters as the 2011 Dakkar? Same suspension?

    I was trying to find a good source to really compare the bikes, I may need to take a ride to the dealership as they have both versions in stock.
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  9. el queso

    el queso toda su base

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    I've never heard the 990 performance called lackluster. Just wondering, have you ever ridden one?
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  10. sillbeer

    sillbeer n00berific

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    The Dakar is $13,xxx for a 2011 hold over with lackluster engine performance when compared to the other flagship adventure bikes seems a bit steep..


    I've never heard the 990 performance called lackluster. Just wondering, have you ever ridden one?

    He's a troller.
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    sillbeer n00berific

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    What bolt on goodies are you talking about? Do you know what your talking about?

    Good luck. :lol3

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  12. txbear55

    txbear55 Been here awhile

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    I say used 2011 Dakar for 10,500-11,000 ish, then 3-4000 for add ons if desired. The only "lack luster" performer on my Dakar is ME! The bike flat hauls a$$! :lol3
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    I'm new to all this I just picked up a new '10 back in November .

    I just saw the Baja at the Progressive bike show . I had to do the deal I did to get on my 990 .
    If I could of waited I sure would do the Baja .

    Sorry for the crap cell pic on the spec sheet .....MSRP $ 14,999

    I'm thinking side stand , skid plate $359. your good to go ? But like I said I'm a newbie !!!

    OH and the seat is FRIKIN awsome !!!!!!!!!!!!!:ricky
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  14. wr37

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    I am into the same thing, buy left over or current. Here is what I found.

    2011- 3 models - R with long travel and 117hp , Standard with standard travel and regular 100hp, then the Dakar with standard travel, 117hp, hand guards and crash bars.

    2012- 2 models - R with long travel and 117hp, Standard with standard travel, 117hp, hand guards and crash bars. (blue or white)

    2013 - baja- standard travel, 117hp, hand guards, crash bars, dirt tires and bags.

    The best deal, I think, would be an 11' standard. If you want more hp get it the FI mapped to R spec. Then buy what you want for guards and bags. Then again, the blue is very cool.

    Shit, forgot about ABS - not on the R, not sure about the Baja, on all the others.
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  15. Holaday

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    I'm 6'2" I like the taller bike. I say go with long travel if your tall and spend what you save on farkles.
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  16. KFhunter

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    Not a troller, I am a shopper. As I've indicated in my profile.

    This is what I read:
    http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/176/1.../2011-KTM-990-Adventure-Dakar-Comparison.aspx


    I'm not the one whose pissed in your wheates folks, I just walked by and seen the yellow milk aftermath in that review above
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  17. DesertSurfer

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    I still find it funny that journalists will try to categorize the KTM Adventure bikes as a large sized Adventure bike along with the BMW GS12, Super T, and Duc Multi 12. Ha, that's such a riot of misproportionate comparisons

    The KTM LC8 Adventure is a midsized bike, and should be compared to the BMW GS8 and Triumph 800.

    I you want a bike that outperforms the BMW GS12 and the SuperT, then of course you'd choose the KTM 1190.

    Here's a leap at explaining the comparisons between the BMW GS12, the Super T, and the KTM 990:

    What riding surface does a rider want to feel less fatigued riding and what riding surface are they willing to work harder riding as a trade off...

    BMW GS12... An average rider will feel the most fatigue on a rougher riding surface then smoother tarmac over longer distances traveled. On tarmac the bike is at it's most plush for longer distance riding.

    Super T... An average rider will feel more fatigue on a rougher riding surface then smoother tarmac. On tarmac the bike is more plush then rougher riding surfaces for longer distances.

    KTM Adventure LC8... An average rider will feel less fatigue on rougher riding surfaces for longer distances.
    And the bike will be less plush on longer distances on tarmac.

    You simply decide what riding surface you want more of an advantage on and what riding surface you are willing to put forth more effort.

    And as far as buying a KTM... buy a 950 with low miles.
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  18. everetto

    everetto Been here awhile

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    Wow, not a very complimentary review.

    How in the hell can that porker come in at that much weight, especially compared to those other bikes? Did they not kit up the others? Claimed dry weight is 461, so they added a hundred pounds on it for the test (fuel, oil, coolant, and then lots of gear?)?

    The very reason I am about to be a (proud?) new owner of a 2013 Baja is because I assumed (hoped) that the power to weight ratio would be better than all the current 1200 bikes. Hell, I thought the 990 would smoke my Tenere. Maybe not.....

    The other reason I bought one is because the 990 is supposed to be the best of the big bikes in the dirt - I hope that is the case.
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  19. jeventures

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    I have a 950ADV (carbed, jetted, fmf pipes...powerful machine). My only regret is not having the taller suspension.

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  20. Marko888

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    Another item to consider is ABS.

    I believe the '11 Dakar has ABS. The '13 Baja does not, which means the storage box under the seat is available for your tools and so on, opposed to an ABS bike which has that space filled with ABS pump etc. I would choose the Baja, despite my preference of the looks of the Daker.
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