990 now or wait for the 1190R

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  1. jtmajors

    jtmajors OCD with motorcycles

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    This question is for you Euro guys who have owned both a 990 and an 1190R. Should I pull the trigger now on a 990 or wait for the 1190R? Is the 1190R just as capable on the dirt but better on the street?

    I live in Texas in the USA and have to slab a good 600-800 miles one way (sometimes 2up) to great offroad states like Utah and Colorado so looking for something that can do that well while at the same time be very dirt worthy. Ready to buy a big ADV and wondering if I should just go ahead and get the 990 or if the 1190R will be worth waiting another 6 months since a lot of my adventures will be enduring hours and hours of slab.

    Please don't rant how the 1190 will never be what the 990 was unless you have owned both and can share real opinions and not just theories from looking at pictures and reading spec sheets.
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  2. Whec716

    Whec716 Been here awhile

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    get the 990 now, and head south to ride the ET 500 with us Houston folk.

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  3. salvadorfrieri

    salvadorfrieri Been here awhile

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    Wait for the 1190. You'll get to Utah quicker and more comfortably... and once there off-roading you won't owe much to the 990.
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  4. motomuppet

    motomuppet Been here awhile

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    In similar place as you jtmajors. Have a few hundred KM of slab to get to the good trails, but even more to the point here is the price difference, a 2013 990 Adventure is about $5K cheaper than the 1190 R. I have owned the 950 before and loved it (still kick myself for selling it!) so is the 1190 R worth $5K more than the new 990?

    I have a Tiger 800XC at the moment, so I suspect I will be stoked with either the KTMs as while the XC is a great bike, it is a bit gutless.
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  5. The Griz

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    You'll be hard pressed to find people who have owned both so that's out the window. And even if you don't want people to rant about he how the 1190 will never be what the 990 was/is it's the truth: the 1190 will never be what the 990 was/is. They are two VERY different bikes! The 990 is definitely a far more off road oriented bike than the 1190. Look at it like this: the 990 is a big dirt bike that is fairly capable on the road. The 1190 is a big road bike that is fairly capable on the dirt.

    Road riders are eating up the 1190 and dirt riders are hanging on to their 990's. It just comes down to what you are and what you ride. Period.
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  6. netteb16

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    I find myself asking the same question...

    Any confirmation for US pricing for the 1190's?
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  7. Elusion

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    I was struggling with this decision too.
    I wanted a more capable bike than my Harley so I started doing a lot of research. Initially dismissed the 990 because I knew the 1190 was coming out. But the more I read the more I kept liking the 990.

    I finally decided to get a 990 2 weeks ago. For a lot of reasons: it was available, it is "simple", hardly any electronics, lot's of info available, I like all the extra stuff I got with my Baja Edition, it's a "known entity", and I always have the option of trading it in for a 1190. If I waited for the 1190 I'd probably never know what a 990 was like.

    Second day I had it I took it off road for my first trail ride ever. It was great and I had never had so much fun on a motorcycle. Last week when I dumped it on a gravel road up in the mountains with only 200 miles on it, I just thought "well, glad that's over with". I commute everyday on it. What a great bike.

    Sure, I'll ride the Demo 1190 when it shows up. But right now, I don't regret my purchase at all.
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  8. netteb16

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    I think this is very true. There is something to be said about a bike without all of the electronics.

    Although, the practical, older, wiser side of me is saying that I would kick myself if my next bike didn't include ABS for the street...it's just that the 2013 990 Baja is just so damn pretty.

    Decisions decisions...
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  9. Newbusa

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    I also was waiting for the new 1190, But i missed my 950S so much could not wait any longer and pulled the trigger on a 990R. I am very happy now:D
    And of course i will also demo the 1190 when it comes,but it will have to wait a while while i enjoy this one.:D
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  10. Tancakar

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    Dont get me wrong but 990 r is more dirt focus then 990 that's what I know. 990 isn't better dirt bike then 1190 r . If you say 990 R I would say may be. But it's completely up to you . I don't think they will continue doing 990 in coming years.

    They both great bikes as they are both KTM.!
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  11. GeorgeD

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    if you had read this sentence (first post of this thread), you wouldn't even consider replying...

    "Please don't rant how the 1190 will never be what the 990 was unless you have owned both and can share real opinions and not just theories from looking at pictures and reading spec sheets."
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  12. jtmajors

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    I like your reasoning! Hmm....

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  13. Rodknee

    Rodknee the post is mightier than the sword...

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    i am a 990 fan, but sounds like you want a 1190. :deal

    another data point on the 990 vs 1190, is cost. current real 990 pricing will be 2/3rds 1190 pricing, seeing the 1190 will be a new bike there will not be a lot of discounted bikes.
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  14. jtmajors

    jtmajors OCD with motorcycles

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    How many miles can the 990 slab comfortably compared to the 1190?
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    Thats More Up To Your Keester Than The bike.:roflBike.
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    I slabbed about 8 hrs on a wr250 and wanted to shoot myself in the face afterwards. Just wondering how much better the 990 would be and how comfortable it would be.
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  17. Wantajustride

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    This is just my opinion,,,

    I'm looking for a dirt track of any sort even a gravel road, heading in the same general direction after about 150 miles of pavement to give my arse a break.

    But, I am 55 years old and I do have the stock seat on my R.

    My 990R is 100 times more comfortable than my 690R on the pavement. Don't know if this answers your question.

    Unfortunately a short test ride at the dealership won't give you a good perspective on how great the 990 is,
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  18. FuTAnT

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    The 990 is great but the screen sucks a bag of dicks. Bike to bike they are going to be similar, however if the 1190 is much better in the wind you'll be far more refreshed. Also if you are comparing an 1190R to a 990 (non R version) then on paper I'm not sure where the impressions come from that the 990 is better off road. The 1190R has 10mm more travel than the standard 990 (although with lower ground clearance) and has a lower centre of gravity. So ...... You make up you're own mind. If you're talking about the 990R then that is another story. Q

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  19. jwalters

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    If I were the OP, I would consider a slightly different approach. A 990 now as he suggests, or a 1190 in a couple years. I've never been a fan of first year model bikes, there are usually lot's of TSBs to deal with. Ducati, KTM and others relatively small bike manufacturers have all had their fare share of teething issues on first year models. Nothing against the brands, I love my Ducatis and KTMs!


    But if it were me, I'd wait the 1190 out a year or two until most technical service bulletins (TSB) are taken care of at the factory. By comparison, I own two LC8s. My 2008 KTM ADV 990 had no TSB's since I purchased it new. My 2007 950 Super Enduro R had 4. None were show stoppers, but all required some work on my part.

    That may or may not sway you, but it's worth considering.
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