990 odometer suddenly reads 0 miles, flashing temp bars on battery power?

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  1. rotarygirder

    rotarygirder Adventurer

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    Occasional tiny electrical woes with my 2011 990 have finally leveled up to become very annoying: with the ignition turned on I get a normal gauge sweep, followed by ODO 000000 miles, 12 flashing temp bars, oil pressure light, coolant light, and ABS light. She fires right up, but the tach needle remains at the 6 o'clock position, the temp bars and coolant light remain on, and the oil light doesn't go away. Two days ago this bike exhibited none of these symptoms and this is the first time I've ever seen them.

    Possibly related: in the middle of a trip last year I replaced her stock battery (which was not charging, and died every cold night) with a crummy Walmart one as a field expedient repair. This battery has functioned mostly well, except for also having cold sensitivity, until the last month or two where I'd get a random dead battery if she wasn't run for a few days. I'd been nursing the problem along by leaving the battery tender connected and it was pretty reliable. Last week I left it off the tender for a few days and the battery was flat; I charged it just enough to get started up, rode a couple hundred miles, and experienced no further problems throughout the week as I rode to work and back.

    This morning I was mounting up to ride, disconnected the tender, heard the noise of the gauge sweep before turning the key (my gloves were covering the cluster so I didn't see it), turned the key and hit the red switch and I see normal indications, full tach sweep, then 0 RPM, 0 miles, 12 temp bars, coolant and oil lights. The speedo reads 0 except during engine start when it jumps through the numbers up to 27 or so then back down to zero.

    So far I have disconnected everything behind the dashboard one by one in an attempt to fault isolate, I've found no wires chaffed through the insulation despite a thorough flashlight inspection all along the loom in the front of the bike, I've checked every fuse, I've examined the starter relay assembly with no visible corrosion/breakage, and I've taken the multimeter to the battery both when off (13.0) and running (14.35) and made zero progress.

    Tomorrow I'm going to purchase a replacement battery of actual OEM spec (since the walmart version, despite being the same physical size is actually rated about half of the CCAs, and has failed me multiple times) but I expect that no change will be made. I found several threads about electrical gremlins, and the only one that seems like it might be my problem is here but obviously it is not really helpful.

    Any insight?
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  2. rotarygirder

    rotarygirder Adventurer

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    The dealer didn't have any ideas either. :( I have to wait until Tuesday when KTM will be able to talk them through some more extensive electronic troubleshooting.
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  3. rotarygirder

    rotarygirder Adventurer

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    Just to close this out for the general knowledge of future forum-goers: my entire guage cluster was swapped out under warranty. It was displaying no tach reading, flashing temp bars, and accumulating kilometers as fast as it should be accumulating hundredths of Ks. The tech who rode it around to the back remarked about how cool it was to do 900kmh in the parking lot, and this affected both the odometer and speedometer which means they had to guess at my actual mileage and have the KTM factory program that number into a new guage cluster as the odometer setting.

    Hopefully this doesn't happen to anyone else- especially not out of warranty! -but the service manager said he'd seen a lot of KTM clusters go haywire on their street bikes, so even though this was the first Adventure they'd had with it it was not unheard of. She works fine now, but I have to figure out how to get my temp sensor back into degrees F and not C...
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  4. Cuse

    Cuse Been here awhile

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    Glad it is getting fixed.
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  5. paulo.ag.gomes

    paulo.ag.gomes Sr

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    hi
    happen the same to me, now.
    unfortunately is out of warranty.
    i am now search for a solution.
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  6. TwoWheelExplorer

    TwoWheelExplorer Been here awhile

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    This is happening to me as well. I replaced voltage regular and battery (3x; last 2x with Antigravity batteries). Anybody have suggestions?

    I don't get the ODO going to 0, but if the bike is on, the odo climbs a mile for every few feet travelled in the driveway. Temp gauge flashes, temp light red and ABS light red.
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  7. DirtyADV

    DirtyADV Long timer

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    If the gauge cluster is toast I would look at options before replacing with a new OEM.

    Have installed a RNS trip that has big nice numbers.

    Test started the bike without the gauge cluster.

    Have some plans on adding just the warning lights as a separate setup and skip the original gauge cluster.

    A friend of mine bought a big bunch of the contacts required if doing something like that (he made extensions to move the OEM gauge but ended up with like 500 contacts).

    Hope you get it figured out.

    /Johan
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  8. TwoWheelExplorer

    TwoWheelExplorer Been here awhile

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    Thanks. I've read another thread here that indicates that the ECU may be fried. My problems began when, after a long hot freeway ride, I filled up the gas tank and the battery was dead. I was half a mile from home so pushed the bike home. Wonder if the regulator fried and then took out the ECU.
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