990ADV ABS , are you happy with it?

Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by c munch, Oct 25, 2008.

  1. c munch

    c munch Destination unknown

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    I'm considering replacing my 950ADV for a 990ADV because I'm interested in the ABS option for those panic situations. The ones when you get distracted from the road for a second to only look up to see that traffic has come to a stop.
    This exact situation happend to me the other day and I think I was very close to locking the front wheel as the rear had locked for about 15ft and ABS would have prevented it . I have feared this situation for years and it has finally accured . I consider myself lucky to have avoided a collision because I just grabbed both brakes as hard as I could out of fear.I couldn't avoid the panic in my head to stop in control so thats why I consider myself lucky and careless for not being 100% focused on the road to have come to controlled stop.

    As a side note I was considering BMW's R 1200 GSA but I cant pick that thing up by my self . Having a 31 inseam and riding off road I tend to drop the 950 now and then in the dirt . Not a problem picking it up but I have talked to owners of the GS and they say that it can't be picked up alone.

    I don't want to start a ABS debate ( please don't ) I am just interested in knowing if the abs has been reliable . Reliable meaning has it had any failures needing repair ?

    Thanks all , and keep your eyes on the road not the boats in the water :eek1
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  2. ejge49

    ejge49 Adventurer

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    I rode a bmw with abs for three yrs and never had to use it, the first day I rode the new 990 to work I had the exact situation you described.abs worked great,I'd hate to think what may have happend without it.
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  3. comsubin

    comsubin slower than i think

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    Exactly same situation happened to me, ABS worked great on a damp surface. Don't want to think what would have happened without it.

    I have been a bit sceptical about ABS on bikes, but now I'm an absolute converted!!!!!
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  4. sp0911

    sp0911 Yes! No snow.

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    I sold my 950S about a year ago. I have to chime in here ... I had ABS save me twice on my old BMWs. Once on a wet train crossing in traffic (you know the rubber placemat ones) and once on a sandy stretch of offramp.

    It does work. :clap

    P.S. I now ride an XR650R and just could not afford a bike like the BMWs or KTMs. I have visions of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ :cry flying away if they did go crunch plus, all the money I save on insurance more than pays for the Adventure rides I take a couple of times a year.
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  5. c munch

    c munch Destination unknown

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    Thank's guys . It's those uncontrolled panic stops that ABS can help (Notice: I didn't say Prevent) aviod a collision .
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  6. rgmax

    rgmax Been here awhile

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    The abs cycle time for the rear wheel is pretty slow. I've had the rear activate at low speed and found the slow cycle time to be sort of spooky.

    The front on the other hand works well.

    I have only had to really use the ABS once when I saw a stop sign late ( low morning sun, unfamiliar area ) and almost blew through an intersection at 50 mph. I didn't think there was any way I was going to stop in time, but I did!
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  7. minusone

    minusone Long timer

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    A bit of a pain to turn off everytime you start the bike.

    Apply the rear on dirt expecting ABS to be off on a slide turn and you end up over the edge or into a tree.

    I would not be fussed if it was missing.
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  8. Englishmatt

    Englishmatt Been here awhile

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    When purchasing the 990 I didn't consider ABS as a big selling feature. After riding sport bikes I was very used to very good brakes.

    While the ADV has good brakes the back is still lite. My opinions is...

    "screw the effort to switch it off going off road"....this is the 1st ABS bike i've owned. it's saved me twice coming round a corner with a car just sat in the middle of the road.

    My opinion has changed very quickly regarding the benefits of ABS!!!!
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  9. ronsolo

    ronsolo Hooplehead

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    I like it and consider it a great feature. Just don't forget to turn it off when riding off road under certain conditions or you will not be stopping. :D
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  10. emelgee

    emelgee Been here awhile

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    Changed from a 950 to a 990 6 months ago. No problems with the ABS to date and it's a real confidence boost if you've got to cover a lot of miles in bad weather.
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  11. crashmaster

    crashmaster ow, my balls!

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    I do like the ABS on the 990. However, as one other poster mentioned, the rear cycles pretty slowly, but the front OTOH is fantastic. Since most of your braking effectiveness is done by the front anyway i feel the slow cycling of the rear is not really a problem.

    And, as others have mentioned, make sure you disable it when you go off pavement or bad shit may happen.:deal
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  12. DZSO

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    Same as the others, never had a bike with ABS before. Right after I got my bike (07), I took it out to big open paved lot and "learned" the ABS system by performing panic stops from slow speeds up to 60 mph.

    The only bit of information I would suggest is - do what I did. Get to know your ABS system before you get into a situation that you get to know it - the wrong way. Yes, the rear is a bit slow, but learn to use your brakes before the ABS system kicks in.

    And as stated before - turn off the ABS when you hit the dirt! I forgot one morning and was heading down a tight right hand turn with a very steep drop off on the left side. The ABS was freaking out and acted like a brake system full of air in it. The more I activated the brakes... the bike would just not stop. Now, remember what I stated above about getting to know your ABS? Well, I would use my brakes just to the point that the ABS would activate. Slowed down enough to have a great view of the drop off to my left as I sat on top of the berm just before going over the edge!

    Enjoy the ABS, as a add-on safety measure and not the primary function of your braking system.

    On a side note, the owners manuel states "Do not to use non-KTM brake pads on the ABS system". Thought you should know that.
    :deal

    Enjoy the bike!
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  13. mysterio

    mysterio Eventually an Adventurer.

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    Doesn't that bit on pads, refer only to the 'sintered' type? Oops!..Just checked handbook and yes you're correct, KTM pads only...Err..Toshiba!? TT 2172 HH and TT2701 HH.
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  14. mysterio

    mysterio Eventually an Adventurer.

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    I am ok with the ABS on mine and so far I've always remembered to turn it off. Also, someone here has cleverly set up a switch that allows the ABS to be turned on and off, on the fly, couldn't find it but I'll have another look.
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  15. mysterio

    mysterio Eventually an Adventurer.

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  16. KatoomDownUnder

    KatoomDownUnder Safer off a horse than on

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    ABS is great on the sealed non adventure bits and if you can handle a 10 second stop to turn it off go for it.
    As for the weenies who can't pick their 1200's up they shouldn't be riding or need lessons. With the right technique any adult male with more than matchsticks for legs can pick one up.
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  17. Knackers

    Knackers Polishing Turds

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  18. Terence FFM

    Terence FFM prof. cat-herder

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  19. Katoom119

    Katoom119 Mmmm....Orange Kool-aid

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    I was hesitant about the ABS system mainly due to ignorance (I'd never had a bike with ABS before) but I think it'll work out just fine. Yeah, you have to stop the bike, turn the engine off, turn the key on, hold a button 3 seconds, then you can ride without ABS but it's not that big a deal. Like someone said 10 seconds and you're good to go.

    The rear kicks in pretty easily IMO. Cycle time sounds about like someone knocking on a door. The front you've got to be HARD on the brakes to get it to kick in and when it does the cycle rate is much faster.

    All in all I was very pleasantly surprised. I like it a lot.
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  20. skritikos

    skritikos Been here awhile

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    Same here, excellent front and just OK rear. The quick pulse on the front has already saved my a$$ twice in 6 months time (sliiiippery road downtown Athens)
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