A bit of a rant here.

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by Houndguy, Sep 20, 2013.

  1. Houndguy

    Houndguy super noob!!!

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    A friend of a friend is selling his 2000 all chromed out wide glide with only 18K on it.

    I don't understand how some "bikers" manage to only put only 1,300 miles a year on a bike. Yet somehow I am less of a "biker" for riding a scooter and managing to ride over 10K miles a year.

    Has anyone else noticed how these low mileage bikes for sale tend to be Harley's?

    OK...rant over.
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  2. Riteris

    Riteris Dessert Runner

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    Rather poor rant. I give it a 1.5.
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  3. Houndguy

    Houndguy super noob!!!

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    fair enough.
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  4. Slickvic

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    Perception is reality in these parts, so a scooter is not a real cycle. No matter how many miles you put on. :cry

    Now in Europe and Asia, most riders have nothing to prove so they don't have that issue to deal with. That's just how it is.
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  5. jwhking1315

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    Scooter miles are, like everything else on the scooter, smaller.
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  6. MacNoob

    MacNoob piney fresh

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    Needs more twatwaffle. 1.0
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  7. cdwise

    cdwise Long timer

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    I don't know my brother wanted to get in some long rides for a cross country trip a friend was planning for his 50th birthday. Saw that the local BMW rider's club was having a "long" ride so he decided to show up on his BMW K1400 (or something like, definitely the K series) only to be disgusted when he saw the ride route - San Diego to San Clemente with a make your own way back. Grand total of their "long" ride was 63 miles from KSU to end of ride.

    BTW, he bought it 3-4 years old with less than 8k for half what they guy he bought it from paid so the guy he bought it from could buy the newer bigger BMW K series bike.
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  8. k3ith

    k3ith Been here awhile

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    I have 2 bikes at the moment. My '07 Yamaha Vino 125 has 12000 miles on it (all but 130 I've put on in the last 2 years.) My '82 hondamatic CM450 has 14000 miles (I've only put about 500 on it, all since I got it as part of a trade in August). So if all the miles were evenly distributed the scooter has averaged 2000 a year and the Honda has averaged under 500, but people want to say my scooter is less of a bike. It's silly and I don't let people's opinion bother me.

    But since we're talking about people looking down on scooters, when I started riding the scooter to work last year everyone in the office parking garage was too polite to say much, but they all gave it dirty looks and a couple people asked if I planned to upgrade. They quit asking and giving looks when the temperature dropped below 50 and I was the only one parking a two wheeler in the spaces they save for us. When it started snowing they started asking if I was nuts, but as long as nothing was sticking to the road why not ride? (I took the bus then.) When they came back out in the spring no one said a thing.
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  9. foxtrapper

    foxtrapper Been here awhile

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    Seems like everyone on a motorcycle sneers at scooter riders. And yes, I'll agree that percentage wise, Harley owners talk more and ride less than virtually any other biker group I know of.

    Over on one of the Harley touring bike forums a guy posted about his Iron Butt trip, 10k miles in 10 days. That is some goodly riding. But the genuflection he is getting from the members of that touring bike forum, shesh. How only a young man could do it, how insane that is, etc. It's enough to make anyone who knows how to even ride across their state roll their eyes.
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  10. JerryH

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    I have 24,000 miles on an '08 Vino 125 bought new, and I have other bikes I ride as well. I have '86,000 miles on an '02 Kawasaki 750 cruiser bought new.

    You will also find a lot of newer Vespas ( 4 stroke CVT) with very low mileage. Like Harleys, some people buy them to just ride around locally and pose on. They don't have rainsuits cause they wouldn't dare ride them in the rain. Every once in a while I notice a whole row of shiny new looking Vespas in front of the local Starbucks. There are a number of local hangouts for Harley riders as well. They ride their bikes there, socialize a while, then ride them back home.

    Not all Harley riders do this though. I have ridden all over the country, and I have seen a lot of Harleys with license plates from states on the other side of the country. You see a lot of them on the interstates, which is where I've spent most of my time.
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  11. ramblerdrver

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    There's always a long list of Harleys for sale in the paper and on eBay and Craig's List. Makes you wonder how Harley can keep selling new ones!
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  12. gogogordy

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    Most of the hard-core, bad-assed riders I know and know of, ride scooters.

    Just saying.

    (CDWise on this very thread can put a lot of people to shame mileage-wise)
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  13. klaviator

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    Stereotyping Harley riders is just as bad as stereotyping scooter riders. There are all kinds of riders on every type of bike. There are even some Harley riders who also own scooters........or is that scooter riders who also own Harleys?
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  14. Chillis

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    As I get older the thought of getting a car again is more appealing. If I can find something decent that won't keep at the gas pump all of the time I may become a fair weather rider. After owning and riding motorcycles for most of my twenties and into my early thirties, even if I only fair weather ride, I won'tbe judging people on their mileage. Any riding by anyone is a good thing. Except those crappy cheap scooters that plague the streets and Craig's list.
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  15. cdwise

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    Well I have to admit that I think 10k miles in 10 days is insane. Hell, I don't want to do an ironbutt in a car much less 10 of them in a row on a bike or scooter. 680 in one day is my limit and while I've done multiple 450-580 days, 3 or more days in a row I prefer trips longer than 1200 miles to take more than 3 days.
    I will admit that I enjoyed talking with the couple in Utah on 15 year old Harley Road Kings but then hers had nearly 70,000 miles on it and his over 90k. Well maintained but basically stock.

    gogogordy - this will be a light year after my accident in April. Though if the BV is ready before the snow flies I'll ride it back to Colorado (aka sometime in the next 3 weeks). Otherwise my next planned trip is to Atlanta from Houston next April for Photoshop World. I was really bummed that I couldn't make it to Amerivespa this year.

    FWIW, my scoots are almost always shiny even when half or more of the country away from home. I tend to clean the windshield whenever I fill up and get rid of bugs on the body either at the end of the day or when I'm loading the scoot back up in the morning. I like a clean vehicle no matter if it is a car, scooter, motorcycle or bicycle. Heck, if I had a push scooter it would probably be cleaned after rides as well.
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  16. gumshoe4

    gumshoe4 Been here awhile

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    I understand your rant, but you made a bad decision if you bought a scooter to gain recognition from Harley riders. I've found that when motorcycle riders have a lot of ego investment in their rides, they look down at scooter riders, but motorcycle riders who are happy to have their knees in the breeze never fail to wave, nod or acknowledge, regardless of what you're riding.

    Bottom line is to be glad you're out riding and not worry about receiving validation from others. Scooters are very good and efficient machines. They are not substandard or below par. We choose them because what they do and how they do it meshes with what our needs and wants are. Consequently, there's really no reason to be upset with the few in the world who display contempt for anyone who is not riding a Harley/BMW/Vulcan/VStar/VTX/Roadliner or, for that matter, Silverwing/Piaggio/Vespa/Kymco/etc. Not worth having a bad day about any of that...ride and be thankful.
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  17. bwringer

    bwringer Gimpy, Yet Alacritous

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    You shut your whore mouth RIGHT NOW... :D

    The legions of low-milers are a FANTASTIC source of cheap, barely-used scooters and motorcycles. Remember, we LOVE these soulless bastards.

    Whatever you do, DON'T shame them into riding more.

    We've got a really good thing going here. Don't screw it up.

    And it's not just a Harley or scooter thing, too -- lots of people watch "Long Way Round/Down/Up/Over/Through/Underneath", browse ADrider.com for a few months, buy an enormous KTM, BMW or V-Strom or whatever, bolt on 300 pounds of luggage and farkles...

    ...and then scare themselves absolutely shitless the first time they ride down a gravel road. When they get home, they're so shaky and sweaty they drop it in the driveway. $3,000 worth of Aerostich gear goes in the closet, they pop a beer, log in to ADVrider, and bitch about the tires and "twitchy throttle".
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  18. Houndguy

    Houndguy super noob!!!

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    I actually have little issue with this and find nearly all bikers to be a great bunch of people. My OP did have some venom in it but was also intended to be tongue in cheek as well. If I upset anyone with it then I am sorry.

    I think I may have already. At work there are at least 5 other motorcycle riders. At first I got a bit of ribbing about riding a scooter to work But I rode in the rain, the dead of night, the cold (we have had nights in the low 20's last winter here in Central Florida)...while they didn't. Only the Harley rider (whose bike is a beauty) has at least attempted to show up every day on his bike after he noticed I was riding in every day.
    :lol3
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  19. topless

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    Ever notice how many low mileage Harley's owners wear Sons of Anarchy tee shirts?
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  20. rufus

    rufus We're burning daylight...

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    A lot of people buy a bike and do a couple of toy runs, haul it to sturgis a time or 2 and then it sits in the garage. I have seen 10 year old harleys with less than 1,000 miles.
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