A bucket or three of bolts...

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by dorkpunch, Apr 5, 2012.

  1. dorkpunch

    dorkpunch Oops...

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    Today's accomplishments. Some more sandblasting and painting.

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    And just for fun, all of the parts so far:

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    And set together loose with no internals.

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  2. dorkpunch

    dorkpunch Oops...

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    Few more parts done.

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    Made a new glass for the gas cap. Plastic is way too thick but this is more of a test to see how it holds up to gas. Still need to put a vent hole in it.

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  3. dorkpunch

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    Daily update. Got the breather put back together and on, the governor blade set on loose, and new points on. Also got the generator bracket and oil seal in.

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    Oil seal in the other side, right set of gaskets in, torqued the bolts, gaped the crank end play. Think thats all good to go.

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    Pine-sol dipped the carb. After stage one (24 hr minimum soak in Pine-sol, rinse with hot water).

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    After blow drying, carb cleaner, blowing everything off again, spraying with WD-40 just in case, and final assembly.

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    Not too bad, considering it looked like this before:

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    Paint.

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    Set together the coil bits loose.

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    Getting closer!

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    And THIS finally showed up tonight. Now we can get serious!

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    Anyone want to buy a complete gasket set for a K181 seeing as I now have an extra?
  4. dorkpunch

    dorkpunch Oops...

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    Puttered around a bit more yesterday after school. Hoping to have it done by the time schools out, so I can have my messes all cleaned up for the summer. Got the rings on the piston and the piston on the rod.

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    Got them installed, with the marks matching on the rod and cap and the hole towards the camshaft. The kit came with some instructions, and judging by the amount of information and the number of times stated, this is an important and often overlooked detail... Near as I can figure when the dipper on the rod hits the oil, it shovels some up into that hole lubing the rod on the crank pin. If its in backwards, no oil is getting splashed into the hole because of the direction the engine spins, and *boom*.

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    Of course, lots of fresh oil during assembly.

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    Got the oil pan installed along with the coil and brackets. Pretty sure I got the drain plug facing the right direction...

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    Flywheel.

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    Air cleaner base mounted on the carb.

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    Swapped the studs over from the other block.

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    Set the head on and got the carb bolted up.

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    Getting close! Several things left to do- adjust points, governor, torque head bolts, wire points / coil / plug, got one bolt hole for the shroud that needs to be helicoiled, put all the tin on, and bench test it. Hoping to have it done by next week.
  5. CA_Strom

    CA_Strom Cunning Linguist

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    Nice work!
  6. crazydrummerdude

    crazydrummerdude Wacky Bongo Boy

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    How much?

    Also, do you have a running example of the K181? After having just rebuilt the same engine, my brother is having trouble getting the throttle cable/governor linkage set up and could use a picture of a working example to go off of. The three manuals he has all have different diagrams/descriptions.
  7. dorkpunch

    dorkpunch Oops...

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    I paid $26.00 for it, so I'd like that out of it but I'll give you free shipping. Also have an extra set of points if he's interested.

    I can take some pics of the governor on the old one, I didn't take that one apart. I took the blade off of the new one but I'm fairly certain I got it back on right. Still have to adjust it though. I'm using a factory Kohler manual, could probably snap a pic of the page on adjusting them too.
  8. dorkpunch

    dorkpunch Oops...

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    Was hoping to get a little more than this done, but had a service call and some other paying customers to attend to and I havent been feeling to stellar...

    I did get an air filter and plug wire though.

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    Also got the head bolts torqued and some tin put back on.

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    Spent some time chasing belts / tubes / tires too. Every single belt is going to get replaced- they are all extremely rotten. Probably going to do the front tires too as the one is about ready to disintegrate.

    I think I found a decent source for belts. Spent some time on the JDparts website and pretty sure I have all the right Deere part numbers for every belt on the Round Fender. Found a website that crosses JD part numbers, gives you the standard belt number, AND the measurements!

    Here they are:


    BELT Deere # Standard # Size
    Generator M41335 3L320K 3/8X32
    Primary M40015 A-B32K 5/8X35
    Secondary M44121 A-M44121 5/8X67.5
    Hydraulic M41341 3L340K 3/8X34
    PTO M40222 A-A26K 1/2X28
    Mule to Deck M40224 A55K 1/2X57
    Deck M40223 A85K 1/2X87



    ***USE THIS INFO AT YOUR OWN RISK!***

    I havent yet got these belts so I can't vouch that they are the right ones or good quality. Also can't totally guarantee that I was looking at the right part numbers... However, the total for every belt on that list is only $52.00, plus $15 shipping. Hard to beat that, since the cheapest place locally wanted roughly double that amount and the industrial bearing & belt place is usually another 50% higher than that!

    www.vbelts4less.com
  9. troidus

    troidus Long timer

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    I'm surprised that it's coil ignition. I would have expected a magneto. Is there a dynamic timing mechanism?
  10. dorkpunch

    dorkpunch Oops...

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    Meaning timing advance? Nope, just good 'ole points ignition. The "newer" flywheel had a magnet and a more standard style small engine magneto under it, but I wanted to keep it original to the tractor so coil and generator it is.

    I think they figure these engines are pretty much running at one speed only, so they figure the timing for that RPM. Just a guess though.
  11. dorkpunch

    dorkpunch Oops...

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    Got a few more bits painted. Generator is drying so hoping to be able to reassemble it and get it put on tomorrow.

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    Worked on setting the points. Pulled the cover off of the old block- looks like it got WAYYYY hot. Hot enough the white plastic melted and the spring pulled out, AND the plunger started melting a hole through the points.

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    Got mine figured out, timed, and added some new wires:

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    Then put the cover on, adjusted the governor, and put the muffler in. Still need to find a locking ring for it though.

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    Shroud back on and pulley bolted to the flywheel.

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    Getting close!
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    dorkpunch Oops...

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    And for CDD- governor adjusting procedure straight from the Kohler manual.

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  13. troidus

    troidus Long timer

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    Does that new points wire need to be resistance wire, or is that handled on the chassis somewhere? (DAMHIK about the need for resistance wire on points ignition. :baldy)
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    dorkpunch Oops...

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    I don't THINK so, but I guess I'll have to go read a bit more in that section... I would think any resistance is handled in the coil. :dunno
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    I didn't know about resistance wire, then had a voltage regulator fail. 17 volts across a set of points is very bad. There were flames shooting out the exhaust.
  16. dorkpunch

    dorkpunch Oops...

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    Managed to get the deck of and started making a few plans as to what to do next...

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    Thinking for now I'm going to give it a super good bath- still tons of gunk underneath and in the engine bay area. Don't think I'll do any painting underneath. Looks pretty good under that protective layer of grime! Upstairs I think I'll pull the hood, supports, control tower, fenders, and seat for a quick scrub with the wire wheel and then some paint. Not sure what to do about the hood for now. Probably just slap a coat of paint on it but mask the hood decals and call it good until I can find a better one or repair this one. Bought a tube for the one flat tire. Hoping to get new shoes for it but that'll probably be the last thing I do, even after I go through the deck.
  17. troidus

    troidus Long timer

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    You should convert that into a wheelstander. Put the engine and the deck behind the rear axle, with the deck angled to function as wheelie bars. You could still mow, you'd just be in the reclined position to do it. :D
  18. dorkpunch

    dorkpunch Oops...

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    :lol3

    My neighbor has a custom built "mower" with a 3 cylinder Kawaski 500cc 2 stroke. Axle from some type of four wheeler and wheely bars- which I see him use FREQUENTLY as he blasts passed my house. Need to get a picture of it some time.
  19. dorkpunch

    dorkpunch Oops...

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    Got the hydraulic unit off last night too.

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    Shazam. That was easy!

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    Got the bits degreased and drying. Getting tired of dealing with our CAL Ranch store... Every time I go in for something its out of stock and will take 4 weeks to get in. Sounds like they can get some for another store sent over in a couple of days, but really. If something is SOLD OUT you would think you want MORE of it to SELL!!! At least they finally have pens and bags in the hardware section. Only took 'em a YEAR to do that.

    Also got the generator set in place. Belt is not the correct one.

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    Think thats about it for the motor! Some oil, a battery, the right generator belt, and some gas and I can bench test it.

    Also got the gas tank brackets cleaned up and painted.

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    dorkpunch Oops...

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    Got a bit more done on the tractor. Was thinking I was going to take the entire control tower off so I took some pics,

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    and found this.

    Think it had a John Deere battery in it for a while?

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    Thinking this is about as far down as I'm going to go. Will take the fenders and tires off, and maybe just the top part of the control tower but I don't think I'll take the entire thing off.

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    Tagged, bagged, and buttoned back up until next time.

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