A n00b goes racing

Discussion in 'Racing' started by eatpasta, Jan 15, 2010.

  1. Cactus Dave

    Cactus Dave Born to Argue

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    I suggest a different (smaller, lighter and with e-start) bike for your first hare scramble/enduro. The XR650R is a great desert race bike - Baja 1000, Vegas to Reno, etc. It is NOT an enduro bike. They start easily when hot, and upright. If it has been on its side (and it does not have an Edelbrock carb), it is a HUGE PIA to get started. Kick, and Kick, and Kick, and Kick . . . . to clear it and get it started. And, if this is your first enduro, it will be on its side. It will exhaust you. Plus, the bike is long and tall and somewhat heavy for enduro work. If you're Scott Summers or Johnny Campbell, or Steve Hengeveld, you can make an XR650R do anything, anytime anywhere. Otherwise, it'll wear you out. I speak from experience . . . , and I'm a big XR650R fan.

    If you have access to a 250, 400, or 450 with e-start, beg, borrow or steal it for your first effort. You'll have enough to concentrate on/worry about without the Big Red Pig working against you. I'd prefer you have a fun time and race often instead of having a miserable experience and swearing to never do another enduro.

    All the best,

    Cheers,

    Dave
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  2. barnyard

    barnyard Verbal tactician Super Moderator

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    I used to scoff also. Brianna made me start after I cramped up after a race so bad that I could not drive and we sat on the side of the road for 20 minutes waiting for the cramps to subside.

    My race day eating goes something like this:
    before the race
    drink 1/2 gallon of OJ before race
    eat at least 1 banana, sometimes more
    a couple of ham and cheese sammiches or a couple cans of mixed fruit in heavy syrup

    at gas
    another sammich and a banana or a can of mixed tropical fruit in heavy syrup
    chug at least a quart of water (and refill the empty camelback)

    at the finish
    take off hot, sweaty gear
    sit and drink a quart of water or OJ
    another banana
    a sandwich or 2

    NO POP

    It seems counter-intuitive, but when you get home, take a brisk walk around the block. It will make Monday morning much better.

    On Monday, drink plenty of water and go for a brisk walk or 2. You want to keep your muscles from getting too tight. The more active you are, the less you will stiffen up.

    Tom B
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  3. airborndad

    airborndad Long timer

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    Strange but True

    I always said Slower is Faster (backwards from barnyard but I think its the same point being made)

    Every race I would always try to go slow and take it easy the first lap then speed it up after that

    Weirdest thing is, my first lap was almost always the fastest

    Just go out there and have fun, take it easy(don't crash) just tell yourself your gonna finish the race
    ( do this and you'll finish a little bit behind mid pack)

    Don't try to prove anything to anyone but you in your first race :thumb

    Again GOOD LUCK !!! :ricky Have fun
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  4. gilbrock

    gilbrock Official Subaru Fan Boy

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    You don't need another bike - Run what ya brung! Run your first race with what you have and if you like racing, you'll be able to upgrade later. Who knows, you may hate it or be satisfied by racing once or twice, which, in those cases, you won't be out anything but a few entry fees.

    However, I'm certain that the first 30 seconds of racing will blow you away so much that you'll be hooked for life!

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  5. Barry

    Barry Just Beastly

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    hahahah.... I have that t-shirt!!!

    Worst one evar was my 560 SMR when I had a very minor problem. In 95 degree heat, full leathers, in a practice session, it died. I kicked, kicked, and was ready to go to the ER.

    Friends had a trailer with A/C, or I'd have probably gone.

    Barry
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  6. Pantah

    Pantah PJ Fan from Boston

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    Pasta - You can see from our posts that we are in your court. Go out there and run a few and have a heck of a good time trying. We want you to share the same thrill we had back in the day. There are few greater experiences then trying to race a motorcycle.

    I wonder why that is?

    -Pantah
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  7. barnyard

    barnyard Verbal tactician Super Moderator

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    Bench racing with the Vet and older classes is way more fun than with those younger whipper-snappers.

    :rofl

    Tom B
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  8. eatpasta

    eatpasta Lawnmower Target

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    In my wildest dreams I will NEVER been Hengeveld, or Cambell!! HOWEVER..... I can ride a similar bike!

    :lol3

    which i Know is wrong for this event, but its what Ive got and what I feel comfortable on. we'll see how bad it is....

    thanks for all the advice guys - on the food as well.... I need to know these things!

    :thumb
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  9. eatpasta

    eatpasta Lawnmower Target

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    ....picked up some knee protection today.... and was VERY tempted to buy those $350 leathers on sale there at Cycle Gear!

    :becca

    trying to keep it leaned into the dirt...
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  10. Shocktower

    Shocktower Long timer

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    You go and have fun it is a true run what you brung and enjoy the ride :freaky
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  11. Cmayer31

    Cmayer31 Newb

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    Have fun at the enduro! You'll have a blast on whatever you ride.

    I love my BRP, and compared to a lot of bikes better suited for this stuff, it truly is a pig. However, it's ridiculously reliable and will take whatever you throw at it.

    Mine starts first kick every time as long as it's upright. I went down hard on ice this weekend and I used every swear word I've ever heard and then made some up while trying to clear her out and get started. I was beat! Sadly, it's not my first experience begging for an electric leg after a spill because I seem to do it a lot :lol3 .

    One thing to remember is the drill starting drill and if it doesn't start after a few kicks, start the drill over again. Seems to help.

    Back in my hockey days the recovery drink of choice was chocolate milk, at least one banana, protein powder, and ice all blended together :freaky .
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  12. eatpasta

    eatpasta Lawnmower Target

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    someday ill get something better suited for this kinda stuff but its like golf - if I dont know what club I need, how can I know I need it?


    Once I get out there a know what I need, then I can know to go get it.
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  13. MotoMike

    MotoMike Washed Up Desert Racer

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    Well AJ, one thing in your favor will be perfect conditions for racing in the desert. Cool and the rain will make it dust free. This is a hare and hound, not an enduro. Dead engine start and go for it for 40 or so miles.

    You will do fine, just take your time like everyone has suggested.
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  14. Oni

    Oni Ronin

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    I think Pasta will do well. I have seen him toss his GS around like most people toss thumpers around. First time I rode with him, he rode up at a high rate of speed and pitched that big ol' GS sideways...feet on the pegs and came to a smooth stop a few feet from me.

    I was like :eek1 I thought for sure there would be a huge crater when the GS augered in. Nope. Kept it on 2 wheels all day.

    He takes that GS all over the place...usually on semi bald Anakees.

    He'll do fine on the BRP.
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  15. eatpasta

    eatpasta Lawnmower Target

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    my real fear is what if I come to the end of my one loop and I dont wanna stop?

    :lol3

    of course with this rain, should I bring my swim trunks and snokel!?




    more likely than not what will happen is Ill be begging to get off the bike.
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  16. MotoMike

    MotoMike Washed Up Desert Racer

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    Ah, they're so cute at that age...:rofl
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  17. eatpasta

    eatpasta Lawnmower Target

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    :baby
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  18. barnyard

    barnyard Verbal tactician Super Moderator

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    Another great bench racing line........
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  19. Barry

    Barry Just Beastly

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    The issue here is endurance, and fitness. 2 hrs. or 40 miles at race pace, that's the issue.

    As I said before, pick a pace you can manage, and manage it.

    As an example, 2 very, very fast guys I know (one is making a go at being pro) put on heart rate monitors, and did a local 10 mile loop at "race" pace. They are both A class riders. Heart rate never dropped below 190 BPM.

    That is the issue. Fitness, not skill.

    Barry
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  20. airborndad

    airborndad Long timer

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    Don't stress out about it.
    Just go at what ever pace you feel comfortable at.
    Its only 40 miles if you bogg out pull off take a five minute break and then just go for a finish.
    If you finish 20th or 120th you still did good

    you've been on 40 mile rides before and you've been on 2 hour rides before
    you've been on easy rides before and you've been on hard rides before
    This is just a combination of all of those in 1 ride

    You will have some very hard sections to go through
    Just take your time in these sections don't hurt yourself or the bike
    Your goal is to 1st have fun and 2nd finish your 1st race
    As long as your bike holds up you will be able to do it
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