A n00b goes Rallye Racing

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  1. Y E T I

    Y E T I Unpossible

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    There's parts of California that aren't sanddy?? :baldy

    Actually, nevermind, I like the sandy bits. Great read!!
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    eatpasta Lawnmower Target

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    are we ever going to ride together.....??


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  3. Y E T I

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    If you and Q will stop taking naps we will . . . :photog
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    Actually, my arms and hands seem to be able to hold up to riding again, so very soon!!

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  4. eatpasta

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    we weren't napping, we were looking for the pincher bug mother-hive.... which we found shortly after you left.

    :1drink


    USDR race middle of next month.....

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  6. Bluebull2007

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    Back to the Rally School story:

    I never had the right sized spanner with me to tighten any of the bolts on the loose racing tower, not that it would have been much help. The bracket was damaged. All I could do was tighten the one nut as much as possible with my fingers. I found I could ride for about a mile if the track wasnt too bad, otherwise around about 500m metres before I had to stop and manually tighten again. It took me quite a while to get back to the bivouac like this but at least I got back without everything falling apart.

    The experts had a look at the damage and agreed the solution was to weld the whole thing on properly for the Sertões. I nodded meekly, hey what do I know anyway? [​IMG]

    Then the temporary fix was a case of fairing off, bars off, forks off, and drop out the steering column. How Charlie got those nuts in was a mystery. We were able to somehow get a spanner into the steering column and tighten three out of four ok. We put some red locktite on the bolts, because that was all we could find in the trailer - Sorry Charlie! [​IMG] It seemed to hold well once everything was back together and I rode the fourth loop again with Mike & JB to check nothing worked loose again. It seemed ok.

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    Mike filling his KTM orange bike disguised as red one. [​IMG] If you see him around, ask him to tell you the joke about the South African, the two Canadians and the redneck at a gas station in Pahrump. It´s hilarious. :lol2

    That evening over steaks, we listened rapturously to Dirk Kessler´s talking about his 2010 Dakar experience. He had a horrific knee injury on the 3rd Stage of the Dakar this year. I was amazed he was even walking around with us never mind riding. This was his first time back on the bike since the Dak, and it was hurting, you could tell. But these guys are made of steel. His description of the event, all the hype, dodging flying cars, carnage in the dune section and his crash was riveting. He said the sheer terror you get when the cars start catching up is really something, especially when you are down in the road somewhere in a gulley with nowhere to go, and a french accent on the helicopter loudspeaker is screaming "GOOO GO! Ze caz are comeeng, ze caz are cominnnng!!!!" He said that one tends to get an instantaneous energy boost and people do superhuman things to get the hell out of the way of the cars and the trucks.

    There were many Dakar stories over the weekend, some of them really hilarious, others are freaking terrifying. Jonah Street among others was also there too and one thing that really struck me was how humble and unassuming these guys all are when you talk to them. The one really nice thing about rally is that the guys doing it are all really good guys with the same dry sense of humour. Theyre all totally mad of course [​IMG] (you need to be I think) but they´d drop anything to help anyone in need and are very passionate about what they do. I thought I had travelled far to be here. Marcus came in from Singapore. Jonah drove 24 hours from Washington. The Czeck´s drove from Michigan for three days. These people are seriously driven and committed.

    There are 1,001 reason why one should NOT do rally raid. Ive learn´t everything about this sport is difficult; from getting the FIM licence (yep that too) to getting the right bike, to practicing, to the logistics, the applications, the time, the cost, the risk, the blood & tears & pain, its all hard, there´s never a break, never enough time to do everything. It seems if I am prepared to overcome all these things, then the reward, that feeling of accomplishment will be impossible to match. I know if I finish the Sertões I will be an emotional, teary-eyed nutcase for a little while. If I´m not, everyone will respect me for trying at least and getting as far as I do, but I will most liekly remain dissatisfied, I will not be content. I will know whether I have either done the best I could or cheated myself and chickened out. I think I also understand why for some, they keep coming back for more.

    Day 3

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    Seth (Seth S), Phil (BicyclePhill88), Scott (Hogwild), & JB (JBthered)

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    Jonah Street, Dirk Kessler & Mike (skibum69)

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    Charlie (lastplace), Dave (GSNorCal), Marcus, & Seth

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    Charlie is the legend who put my bike together, and runs the company Rally Panam with Robb McElroy (I think?). Charlie has done the Dakar a three times (I think? - Hes definitely finished in 2005) when it was still in Africa. He did all the support for Jonah a couple of times now, and is super experienced with logistics and the in´s and out´s of rally racing. He knows what mistakes not to make so I´m lucky to have his input and support.

    We set off in a group for Dumont dunes on a 70 miles route on the roadbook. This turned out to be the most enjoyable route of the weekend for me because it had a bit of everything in it. I had no problems with the navigation except very early on, and I didn´t rush too much. The first real obstacle was a badly washed out track with big steps in it leading steeply down a hill. If you picked the wrong line you would end up in a deep slot. A couple of the guys had stopped there and were thinking about how best to do it. I just said "bugger that" and took the plunge like a fool. I think riding next to the track off-piste might have been a better idea because I hadn´t gone 20m when I lost the front wheel out from under me and I went down.

    I think JB might have it on camera. Must have looked hilarious. I really battled to get the bike started after that, the battery was poked on the 1st day so I had been kickstarting it all weekend. Eventually I managed to bumped it on the bad bit, and we continued a long a rocky section which broke onto a fast dirt road. The route took us on a long winding route through the mountains, it was spectacular stuff. It finally ended in a canyon of sorts which was really technical and very whooped out. It was exhausting and very, very hot work in the blazing sun. JB managed to break a hole in his engine on a rock near the end so he sat back in the shade of a rock and had a nice nap while he waited to be picked up, the rest of us thrashed ourselves to the point of death by exhaustion in this MX-style river bed that never wanted to end.

    After about 8-10 miles of this kind of riding we broke out and finished up at the dunes where the camp had been moved to.

    [​IMG]Scott Scott (Hogwild) Whitney, setting off with yet another sucker in tow. The chain broke high in the dunes, and he had a bit of an epic getting it off and replacing it in the midday sun. Respect! :super

    We hit the dunes shortly after everyone arrived and it was quite fun I must say. The guys were tired out from the earlier ride, so I think we all need to learn how to improve on our endurance going forward. It was so hot. Jonah took us out and did some theory on navigating through the dunes with us while we all baked nicely, wishing we could just ride. The riding wasnt too hard, as the sand was actually very firm compared to what Im used to here in Peru. I laughed at Jonah´s answers to n00b questions. People would keep asking things like "how fast should we ride?" Jonah pauses and says "I don´t know, as fast or as slow as youre comfortable with without falling off a dune and getting badly hurt."
    "How should we ride up a dune?"
    "Ride straight up if you feel like it or zig zag at an angle, anyway you like. You decide."

    His answers were always simple, what he was really saying is if you are going to ride any desert rally you need to practice riding and navigating in dunes. Dont go in green. And be sensible about choosing your line. For those of you who want to know the secret bits, you´ll have to attend the rally school yourself to find out. [​IMG]

    I did a bit of a video of us riding in the little Dumont dunes. I think only two of us had done sand before, so it took a bit of getting used to for most.


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    Mods: I dont get it, :dunno this is a pasted embed code from youtube. The last time I tried to fix this I ended up crashing/freezing my thread! What the heck am I doing wrong?? If you cant see the vid, please go here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmHSlw9acUU

    In the video its hard to see the crests, its the same when youre out there, this is what makes dune riding hazardous.

    Some of the guys went back to refill their camelbacks, so it was basically Mike & myself who went out to the big dunes. I was very tired. I need to get fitter. When we finally got there, we started playing in them, I have some video of this I still need to edit and put up for you guys. There is this one really big triangular dune, perhaps 100 or 150m high, with lots of holes and smaller dunes on it and steep sides all around. The idea was to get to the top. I wasnt keen because of my fatigue and heat so I chickened out initally and took a rest after only going about 2/3rds of the way up. Mike eventually came back also after cruising around for a bit and we chatted for a bit longer before giving it another bash. Mike lost it about 15m from the top and went over. I managed to get over the top but dropped the bike not expecting an equally steep drop on the other side. As I pulled the bike straight I managed to grab the hot exhaust with my hand. There was a hole in my glove so I screamed "You DUMB %&_()'" but it was too late. A nice 2nd/3rd degree burn. What a stupid way to end off the rally school.

    At least I finished everything. I was very pleased about that. I didnt crash too badly. The bike ran so well and I have confidence to do this rally thing now. For the first time I can say now that I really believe I can finish a rally. It was tiring and mentally taxing but I know I can do this. i want to do more. I enjoy that feeling when you are so tired but you have to keep going. When I did caving/spelunking, I got the same thing. No one can get you out of the situation but yourself. This trip made life sweeter for me. It was worth every cent I paid in plane tickets, bikes car hire, etc.

    The people I met were all fantastic. My co-n00bs are a great bunch of guys and most of us are going to be doing a rally somewhere this year. The experienced guys were really nice, so patient, and as group everything was general easy and relxed. Thanks to all of you who were there, it really was great to make so many new friends in such a short time and it was pleasure to ride with you.

    Cheers for now.

    Neil [​IMG]

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  7. escuchamente

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    click the AA button to the top right hand corner of the text box, the text screen will turn white, then paste the embed link...
    great thread, great videos, thanks for sharing.
  9. Hayduke

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    Neil,

    You probably have your editor mode set for "basic".

    Go to your control panel, click "edit options", scroll down to Miscellaneous Options and change your Message Editor Interface to "Standard Editor", then click Save Changes at the bottom of the page.


    Thanks so much for writing this up! Really enjoyed it!

    And keep us informed about your further preparations; we'll be following along for sure!

    :thumb

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  10. Bluebull2007

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    Forgive me but this is a foreigners impression:

    LAX is overrated :D I spent 2 hours trying to get from international arrivals to local departures. Not a very nice place and the locals were freaking unhelpful-I got more assistance finding myself around from an Australian, some folks from Hawaii and a girl from Michigan.

    Vegas was also overrated, not my thing at all. The suburbs I saw in Vegas seemed nice though.

    But I loved the desert. There are some really beautiful mountains and stuff. I could live out there. I was amazed though at the wrecked trailers lying all over the Nevada desert, abandoned houses etc. One always sees America was land of the rich and the free, but Pahrump was a little on the grim side. People arent doing all that well over there. It was kind if interesting to see what people were buying at the gas station. Beer and sweets. Most were really overweight.

    Another amazing thing was the Rv´s and campers that so many people seem to have. Not something Ive seen much of anywhere else really.
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    Thanks Duke, I appreciate your advice & support :deal Oh, and I´ll be waiting for your call when you come down.:D
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    nice write up Neil, thanks dude


    I finished my new video edit last night and the first draft of my story, both should be up soon....
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    Looking forward to it Mike :deal :clap
  15. Seth S

    Seth S Will _____ for _____

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    Just a little tidbit of interest: there is a local bike shop to me that is listing brand new 2009 WR450F's for $5199. I am guessing they are left over from last year and trying to clear them out. Given that price tag and the cost of the rally lite kit you could have a good rally bike for the cost of a new KTM :D
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    Hmmm..... wonder how good that would be as a woods bike, would have to be better than my DRZ400. It survived yesterday's trail ride.... but just barely!

    I am thinking buy one now, run some euduros for the next couple years, then strip it down and rebuild it into a rally bike.
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    :lol3

    looks like you nailed it right on the head just about every time!

    :thumb

    yes, lots of fat people and lots of RV's. I myself will never understand the RV thing - they ungodly expensive, ungodly expensive to maintain and operate BUT when you go out to the desert, its REALLY nice to have a TV so you sit and eat your Beer and sweets.

    you just summed up all the things that embarrass me about America!
  18. Seth S

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    While I might be tempted to agree with you I would have to say that having Don's RV at the rally training was fantastic. I suspect the 4 or 5 guys who slept in it would all agree that it was very handy. So while I might not want a massive RV they certainly have their place. The TV, AC, and cold beer all help :thumb
  19. Seth S

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    The WR450F is in a different league as compared to the DRZ. They are both Japanese companies but the Yamaha has a lot better performance, suspension, frame, and weight.
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    I completely agree with you on needing one for support - the ones Im referring to are for no real good reason other than to simply occupy the road at a very slow rate of speed and to waste petrol.

    My wife and I took a trip to Seattle and back on the GS two summers ago and the ENTIRE summer was filled with somehow trying to dodge the sea of idiot RV drivers who rarely acknowledged the rules of the road and completely filled all the campgrounds.

    Honestly, who needs a 45 foot RV to go "camping"??

    sorry.... sorry..... ill stop