A picture taker?? who is this??

Discussion in 'Photos' started by HighTechCoonass, Aug 20, 2012.

  1. HighTechCoonass

    HighTechCoonass Living the Dream....

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    From: "Lester Millet III" <lmillet@portsl.com>
    Cc: "
    MSOCStBPlaq@aol.com" <MSOCStBPlaq@aol.com>, "Kelli.Polk@dps.la.gov" <Kelli.Polk@dps.la.gov>
    Subject: SA Alert: Suspicious Activity - Photo Taker: August 19,2012@ 2030 Hours / St. John Parish near LMR MM 138 LDB<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>


    SA Alert: Suspicious Activity - Photo Taker: August 19, 2012@ 2030 Hours / St. John Parish near LMR MM 138 LDB

    Fellow FSO Workgroup Members (MSOC Port of South Louisiana)

    Sunday night, 8/19, at approximately 2030 hours, a white male with Canadian identification, was observed taking photos at one of the oil refineries located in St. John Parish. The individual was interviewed by security and the sheriff's department and then released. He was traveling on 2002 Kawasaki KLR650 Ontario plate # 1607P. NRC was notified.

    Best Regards,
    Lester Millet III



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  2. Dexter2811

    Dexter2811 Been here awhile

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    Dunno who he is, but. Really? Interviewed by the Security Staff and Sherif because he was taking pics? Dude... If I was him I would be really pissed... As per law I can point and shoot my camera wherever I want as long as I don't do it through a window!!!!!!!!!
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  3. fbj913

    fbj913 On the Beemer Kool-Aid

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    poor guy. stupid cops
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  4. BMW Kurt

    BMW Kurt Bluesman

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    As a photographer, I would not take shots of an oil refinery unless I had permission. Things have changed since 9/11.

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    I would be interested in KLR camera! :lol3

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  5. Dexter2811

    Dexter2811 Been here awhile

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    As long as you are in public property nobody can tell you what shoot and what not to shoot... At least in every "free" or civilized country. That being said, prohibiting photography is like somebody is telling you "You are not allowed to watch that way".

    But... I see that you are not allowed to take pics of a police station, to or from a bridge and so on in the US... Is that right? If so, then everybody must take your cameras, hit the streets and start taking and publishing that kind of photos. Public property is public and so is the space that sorrounds every buildind and so are the "public buildings" as PD, Courts, etc. Thats a privilege and a right every photographer must defend...
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  6. Colemanfu

    Colemanfu King of all manfu

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    Picture taking ya right :D.
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  7. GSequoia

    GSequoia Where are my tools?

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    They might be a bit on edge there, isn't that the same parish as the recent cop shooting?


    PS - I've been known to take refinery pictures...

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  8. HighTechCoonass

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    yeap... crazy world we live in... Has to be a Advrider!
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  9. wb57

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    Nope, incorrect. I've got dozens of such pics. In plain view of law enforcement types.
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    Dexter2811 Been here awhile

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  11. Throttlemeister

    Throttlemeister Long timer

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    I took a shot of the US Embassy in Caracas, Venezuela driving by and as we came back around the embassy security was quick to hold us up and ask wtf was going on with the camera. After showing our passports and explaining my intentions they let up a little bit and let us on our way. They don't screw around much down there:lol3

    Here was the security guard outside that stopped us:
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    Just getting a shot of the old homeland while abroad and it gets me in trouble:rofl


    It is quite the secure compound in Caracas and loads of people trying to get in for papers and such:
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    Me and my terrorist look, taken from up above looking back down on the embassy from a safer distance:lol3
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  12. douglasgraham

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  13. BMW Kurt

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    If I saw this sign, I would leave my equipment in the bag.

    I no big fan of the ACLU, but this link tells you what you need to know. Again, rules are often made up on the spot since 9/11. Yhave the right to take a photo and I am sure you will receive a heartfelt apology after spending a night with Bubba in the tank. :eek1
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  14. HighTechCoonass

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    I got busted with a friend taking pics at the border coming into the US before 9-11.He was in the passengers seat while I was driving. He (border patrol) asked to see the photos and made him delete them.
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  15. glasswave

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    As a photographer, it's a shame that you have no interest in defending photographer's rights. Nothing has changed since 911, except a growing number of people seem all too willing to relinquish their creator endowed, self evident rights.
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  16. tattoogunman

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    I was in law enforcement for 16 years and still do investigations for a private non profit. Here's the deal -

    Yes, as long as you are legally in a public place and are in plain view of something, you can take pictures. That said, if you are taking pictures of something like an oil refinery or something similar, do not be surprised if you get stopped (especially if someone calls it in).

    I can make an investigatory stop on anyone that I want to find out what they are doing. Like others have already said, in a post 9/11 climate, someone taking pictures of an oil refinery could be viewed as suspicious. The original post basically detailed exactly what I/we would have done. Conducted the stop, found why he/she was there taking pictures, documented it, and then let them go - it's no big deal. I worked for the U.S. Capitol Police for a few years (place was horrible, I left after about 2 years :D ) and we stopped people all the time for taking pics of our security posts, entrances, etc. Inside of the Capitol we had any number of areas where you were not allowed access or to take pics. If we caught someone, we did the stop, etc. When I worked for ATF I was in Salt Lake during the Olympics. We stopped any number of people caught videotaping our building (we were co-located with FBI and DEA), the entrances we were using to get in and out of the building, our vehicles, etc. When I was a regular beat cop, I had a few traffic stops where people had a, shall we say, less than normal amount of maps, imaging equipment, cameras, video equipment, etc. inside their cars. Nothing came out of any of them, but you never know. It's called being vigilant and proactive, they're just doing their jobs. It's that or let an incident happen and then people come out bitching that the cops knew someone was doing this kind of activity and did nothing about it.

    I get why people want the pics because it's interesting, looks cool, or whatever. But people also need to understand that if someone had any interest in attacking a specific place, taking pictures of it is a big step towards carrying that out. I never had anyone who, after explaining things to them, did not understand why they were stopped. Most of them were always like "Oh, I didn't really think about that" and went about their business.

    Take your pictures - just be aware of what you're taking a picture of and understand what I just said above in case you were to get stopped. :D
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  17. GSequoia

    GSequoia Where are my tools?

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    Sounds like me on a Jeep trip but I'm a bit of a mapping dork. :rofl

    My laptop that's mounted has three types of maps as well as aerial imagery and stuff, plus sometimes I'll have cameras mounted and I've always got a couple radios.
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