A racecar Noob, a Sube and the Mexican 1000 Rally

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  1. oregoncoast

    oregoncoast Racing Like a Noob

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    Ok, then...back to the Subaru Show!




    Doug, I'm working on the spares and supplies list and it will be interesting to see :wink: There may be a bivouac chase vehicle at the least. Luke has alluded to this in the M1K thread. Luke's Desert CB and the Subaru are both being run under the Outta Sight banner, so between the two of us, we should be able to have supplies/parts/goodies waiting for us at the Bivouac, even if we are responsible for getting our asses down to them! :deal But of course, OSR members will do what we can to help our friends out along the way!

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    Of course, in the Mexican 1000, or any multi-stage rally (especially multi-day), navigation, pit strategy and chase strategy can prove to be just as, or even more important than how fast you run on the special stages, and we spend a lot of time working on that aspect and it has proven to work for OSR. However, we probably won't be sharing every exact detail online, as I'm sure you can understand :wink:

    An example of our high-tech, navigational planning from last year:

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    I think this might be David's last installment on the motor build....but he will be here with more as we discover and work through issues:



    And that is how he left this last installment. What a douche. :poser
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    Does the 2013 2.0L have a cam belt, too?
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  3. drc42

    drc42 Rally Dreamer

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    :lol3 that picture sums up why I want to do this race again so bad. One oversight knocked me out of the race for the day and ruined any chance of a decent overall finish. Thanks again to LoudAL for convincing the local guy with the pickup truck to come rescue me, might still be there otherwise!

    Context for those of you who don't know what the pic is about. That is me standing next to my bike with a shreded front wheel. Spokes evidently started to come loose on day 1, this was 8 miles from the end of the first stage of day 2. Cruising along on a fast straight gravel road the wheel pretty much self dissasembled itself. Very scary.

    Moral of the story.... check your spokes often especially if they are new wheels!
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  4. TAZracing

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    Hi Paul!

    I Googled M1K rally, and stumbled onto this forum!

    I have been rallying for several years, and wanting to the Mexican 1000 for, well, a long time. This year my (new) car (umm, truck) is finally done and ready to go! Yay! -only took three years!

    I live in Idaho. I was just curious, being as you know the logistics of this race, could there be some money saved by teaming up? Maybe we could split the cost of a chase crew. I noticed, for a "rally" there aren't a whole lotta Rally cars. We would be in different classes. I normally run G5; or 2wd open. But, unless we both run the bageezus out of our cars, a 2 man chase crew might just be doable.

    Let me know. If you have any "rally" questions, Id be happy to help you out!

    Thanks.

    Jeff
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  5. southforkspeedster

    southforkspeedster koolaidless

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    Wow:clap:clap Paul and Laura, this is cool stuff:deal:deal
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  6. oregoncoast

    oregoncoast Racing Like a Noob

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    Been very busy at work and doing the holiday thing. I guess it's as good a time as any for some updates :1drink


    As stated above, David finished up the engine. We mounted up an external oil cooler that is a sandwich type-adapter that installs between the motor and the oil filter and diverts oil to the cooler once it exceeds a certain temperature. I believe its 165 degrees, but I forget right now. David and I mounted the cooler in front of the radiator.

    Here is basically what we installed, I can't find the photo I took right now.

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    http://www.summitracing.com/parts/hda-457/media/images/make/subaru

    Only I bought mine from Rock Auto and saved a few bucks. Besides cooling, another obvious advantage to this is the increased oil capacity too.

    One thing about this project which is great is that I am finding all kinds of cool car stuff while searching around the interwebs for parts and things. When you have a project, with a timeline and a specific design, it becomes much more focused of a task when searching around PUI.

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    I drove the car back from David's shop (about 110 miles) with no issues. In fact, we tried to get the motor to get real hot, but I think with the combination of the coated pistons and the oil cooler, the motor is running at an optimum temp without getting hot. Of course, it is not 100 degrees outside and we are not running full throttle across a dry lake bed either :deal

    Here's some more pictures of the coated stuff, the pistons each have three different coatings exhibiting different characteristics. David would have to elaborate on this. I hope to have Dave also talk more about the Lego aspect of Subaru motors as it is pretty damn cool and is part of why there is such a cult following for Subarus.

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    The next day, I met up with OSR's resident doctor

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    No, not that one...this one:

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    Alex was driving through and I happened to be at OSR's designer Lonnie's house so we had lunch. I then let him take the Subaru for a little test run, just to show him how smooth the motor was. There are no photos of this, because for this type of thing, you don't want any evidence floating around. Let's just say that I have a strong feeling based on our little test run that this old beat-up Subaru would have no issues at all reaching triple digit speeds quickly and hanging out there for quite awhile :deal

    I mean, if there was ever a need for something like that :wink:

    Alex left, and as I was driving home, going the speed limit, I noticed the oil light come on and then some serious smoke coming out of the engine compartment!! :eek1

    I immediately pulled over and shut her down. Well, one of the oil cooler lines had come off and successfully sprayed the entire engine bay with oil! Of course I had no tools and no oil, so I made some calls. The local fire chief (and my neighbor) picked me up, brought me home to get tools and oil, then back to simply tighten the hoses and go. David later told me that he thought I tightened them up (even though he was the one who installed them...lol), I said, "Yep, I must have forgot, sorry"

    (Racing hint #245 - Never piss off your mechanic, especially if you don't pay him regularly).

    Now, here is a cool part of this story that I think the 2012 M1K OSR crew will appreciate. I was scavenging through the garage looking for a few quarts of oil, and there they were:

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    See, there was a point in the last M1K where the bike needed oil so OSR's photographer Loud Al, the same guy that helped Doug out when his wheel disintegrated, set out to find some. He came back with something like 8 quarts of the 40 weight pictured above! It was all the little store had.

    We did not end up using them all, and somehow they made it back to my garage. I was wondering, what the hell am I going to use straight 40 weight oil in on the mild Oregon Coast. Well, Karma has a way of showing you! I grabbed the Mexican oil and put it into the Subaru. I found it very appropriate that our 2013 M1K race car had oil bought somewhere south of the Bay of LA in Baja running through its veins during its break-in miles! :freaky

    We did our first oil change at right around 500 miles and then put in some Mobil 1, which is probably what we will run because it is good and cheap at the Walmart near David's shop. We at OSR do not like to get into oil debates, so don't worry about chiming in on this thread about which oil we should use. Like Loud Al has said before, and its proven to be true throughout our adventures: "The most important thing about oil is to make sure you have some in the motor." And that's all I want to say about that. :1drink


    Ray the welder called, he said the car will be measured this week and tubing ordered. :clap

    Then I will be dragging Cory (Twinduro) down from Washington to help prep the body for paint!

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  7. TwinDuro

    TwinDuro Befuddled Adventurer

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    Awesome! That's a trick oil cooler setup and the high-tech coatings on the pistons are sweet!

    Also, if you and David decide to swap the Falconer V-12 into the sube, make sure to get the nitrous-swilling 9.8 liter version and not the wussy 6.5 liter one... :deal
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  8. Irish1

    Irish1 Been here awhile

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    As a Subaru nut AND a Honda SL350 nut I think this is just a great thread. I appreciate the common-sense your mechanic showed while building your stonkin' Subie engine. Does he want to refresh my old 1989 BMW 325is engine? :evil I think your wife is cool for wanting to be your Navigator: keep that gal forever! :deal
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  9. ducnut

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    Love that body style! :thumb
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  10. oregoncoast

    oregoncoast Racing Like a Noob

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    Sorry, I don't know, I'll ask David.



    PM Sent and post a link to your truck build!




    Dang, I used to know a guy named southforkspeedster! Nice guy, but always seemed to break his riding buddies :deal :wink:




    Duh! That's a no-brainer. Now, get your ass down here and start cracking on the paint!!






    Unfortunately, David has made it clear to me that he hates working on European cars almost as much as welder Ray hates working on Japanese cars! Of course, money talks!! His contact information is located in the background of one of the piston photos above :deal
    As for my wife, yep, she is a keeper, she's beautiful, wants to rally and she makes more money than me!

    :D
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  11. garandman

    garandman Wandering Minstrel

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    Yes, the new (since 2011) FB series have a belt.

    The Subaru H6 has a chain - and 7.5qt oil capacity.
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  12. southforkspeedster

    southforkspeedster koolaidless

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    you still know me, you just had to start riding in Mexico, so I would not hurt you:lol3:lol3:lol3
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  13. longtallsally

    longtallsally Yeah I'm a chick

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    As a resident E30 idiot, I wouldn't bother "refreshing" one of those motors. You can't break them as long as you don't let the timing belt go. I busted a motor mount on course, and drove 100 miles home not even knowing it with the engine tilted in the bay. Simply amazing motor and car. I'm still kicking myself for selling my last '89 325is (1 of 4 E30s I've owned) and keep threatening to try and get my favorite one back from who I sold it to.

    Keeping on track, I had a question similar to the downfall of the M20 in afore mentioned E30: is the scooby motor interference? I remember the talk of the compression ratio and the like, but don't recall it being mentioned. If it is, does this concern you?
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  14. oregoncoast

    oregoncoast Racing Like a Noob

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    It is interference. It is a concern and has been discussed. We've decided we're just not going to break our timing belt, so there should be no issues.

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    But seriously, that is the issue with these Subaru motors, all you can do is keep up on timing belt maintenance. There is a small optional bracket that helps to keep the timing belt from skipping a tooth if the motor goes backward (like rolling backward in gear). And we installed brand new timing belt covers. A lot of the street Subie guys like to run them naked for some reason. But it just doesn't make sense for us to expose that belt to sand, rocks and liquid contaminants. If we lose a timing belt on the course, the race is probably done. Although if we can tow it to the bivouac, we may just have enough parts for David to put something back together :wink:
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    Thanks, for that info. GF and I have been tossing around a Subaru, for her next car. I thought the H6 was chain, but, wasn't sure if the newer 4 cylinder was and couldn't find any info on their site.

    Totally, enjoying this thread!
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    FWIW, Subaru timing belts are generally a pretty easy job compared to most transverse-mounted engines.
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  17. longtallsally

    longtallsally Yeah I'm a chick

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    I thought they were longitude mounted in the scooby?

    OC, I guess if it is a brand new belt and components, you should be fine. And keeping it covered up is a REALLY good idea I'd think given the use (abuse) it is going to undertake. I might think twice, though about that guard you mentioned as precaution. You've got a couple grand tied up in the motor, and the damage from losing a belt can be pretty ugalee. DAMHIK (just with the afore mentioned M20 from the bimmer...)
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    :nod Correct, that's why it's easier—just a lot more room to work in. :deal
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  19. oregoncoast

    oregoncoast Racing Like a Noob

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    :scratch The guard is on there. We definitely are taking every precaution we can to minimize all of the known issues for these cars. And I really appreciate the comments and questions! :clap


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    One winter day the wife went outside, started the car and left some sorta animal parts all over the driveway as she pulled out into the street. Didn't make it a mile before the battery completely died, stranding her in a church parking lot. A squirrel had decided the alternator belt would be a great place to sleep. Snapped the belt during the process of transforming itself into Saturn sausage. I don't know if squirrels are common in Baja, but those covers are there for a reason.:wink: