About meeting friends and roadside repairs

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by asphaltmueller, Nov 23, 2012.

  1. asphaltmueller

    asphaltmueller nomad acc. § 2(3)AVV

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    the next morning we set out early enough; there was some intermittent drizzle and I put the rain cap over the tank-bag, but we didn't put on rain gear. The meteo was promising rather better weather, but getting worse for the weekend/meeting

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    getting some petrol, checking tyre pressure and having a coffee quite near the german border

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    after having crossed into Germany, it's getting a bit hilly. I had ridden the Jawa hard to follow Birol sometimes, especially some longer uphill stretches were a battling it out with the faster lorries.

    Then, at a real long uphill stretch just after exit Passau-Mitte power fell away . I somehow coaxed here to the summit - the cardinal mistake.
    I had - partially correct - assumed a plug problem.
    The engine stopped just at or after the summit, and I was able to coast down to a small parking.

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    With the fairing it's better to take of the reservoir to get at the plugs, especially if you don't want to burn your hands on the cylinders.

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    I was not to happy when I had to see this. Molten Cathode and a nice hole in the piston.
    Had I cut her immidiately when the power fell away, I might have prevented this. A Jawa hardly ever dies on you without a warning, I learned

    Birol then called on the phone about my where abouts and came back on the highway, leaving on the next exit and doubling back.

    We then tried to call several AiA people whose number I had with me, but this was a tuesday morning; work hours.

    İ then reached Uwe (see several posts before) and he contacted several people per Mail / PM on the forum.
    Soon afterwards he called back and brought the good news that Nanno in Linz, just a good 100 kms away, would have the parts needed.
    I got the phone number and yes, Nanno could easily get away from University at noon and his rented garage was just a km from the first highway exit of Linz.

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    In the meantime Karl, also called 'Jawa-Carl' had seen the missed calls on his phone and contacted me. He messaged the adresses of 2 dealers in the Czech town of Budweis (where the real beer, not the american coloured water comes from). Nevertheless, quite a ride away.
    The foto is from the 'Winter ride', changing the clutch and adjusting the front brake on Mehmeds Jawa in Karls house in Vienna.

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    So Birol set out. He met Nanno in Linz, but there were no more parts. I didn't really wonder, as I knew he had sold of his Jawa-hack.

    So Birol continued to Budweis. As a precaution he had taken along most of our cash.

    In the meantime I had started disassembling the bike.

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    Birol had called that Nanno didn't have the parts and I knew I was in for a long wait. So some coffee in between

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    the parking area was a bit typical for the german highway - no installations at all, no lights, toilets, water - in most other countries a parking space will at least have some of those.

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    This Dutch journalist in his 4wd stopped because he saw my ADV sticker. They were on the way from covering some Enduro -Rally in Romania. And handed me over a 'broken-piston-survival-kit', containing what was left in the car; food , water and some Whiskey. So at least I was set up in this area.

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    See that the second piston was also seriously affected. The 2 Cylinders in a Jawa hardly ever work completely syncron - the tolerances of the carburetor bridge seem to be the reason for that.


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    I was then in for a long wait. Luckily I had my MP 3 loaded with 4 GB of audio-books and a USB-loader on the Jawa which connects to the battery.

    Birol in the meantime had found a Jawa -shop in Budweis, by hiring a Taxi.

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    I wonder how much that brand new one would be - I bought mine for 600,-- Euros

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    the owner first didn't want to sell the pistons and cylinders, as they were the last, and it was his rather well german speaking wife, that convinced him to let riders out of Turkey not being stranded.

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    no used parts, we had to buy a new resp. renovated running set.

    Birol came back to the parking at about 8 pm

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    and we got to work. Birol had me also call Nanno if he would help, as he was of course dog-tired.

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    heating up the pistons on the Coleman, so that - enter english term for 'Kolbenbolzen' - enters.

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    Cylinders back in place

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    some tea and food in between

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    Nanno in the background, having driven about 100 kms one way to lend a hand

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    approaching midnight she's back together

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    coffee break

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    test run, tank not yet mounted

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    and on the road again

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    we had decided to go the 500 kms to the Henneburg through the night - stopping at Highway stations and having a coffee and half an hours sleep.

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    I again handled her badly resp. didn't run her in correctly by riding only moderately, whilst a 2 stroke should be revved a bit when running her in.
    She nearly stuck, but I had cut her immediately this time and after a while she ran again, without consequences, it seems.

    people wondering about the strange bikes from strange lands

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    some struts on Birols rack had broken

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    I was so tired in the end, I layed down a bit

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    broke a mirror, about 10 kms from the castle; crossing still under construction and as such of a real stupid angle, but I had been half asleep.

    a bit later, I was sound asleep

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    next : the meeting
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  2. Tsotsie

    Tsotsie Semi-reformed Tsotsi

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    Curious? What is the purpose of heating the pistons and spark plugs?

    Enjoying the Ride report!
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  3. Padmei

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    Excellent ride report!

    Thanks from the other side of the planet
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  4. advNZer?

    advNZer? Long timer

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    i dont think the spark plugs are being heated just somewhere convenient to sit.Per haps the pistons are heated to make the Gudgeon pins fit?
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    New pistons at a rest stop - love it!
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  6. asphaltmueller

    asphaltmueller nomad acc. § 2(3)AVV

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    thanks for all the comments; they raise morale when writing.
    Nevertheless I won't have time for an installment today, got some obligations.

    We heated the pistons, so that the gudgeon pins ( I was searching for that word) would enter easier. Especially with a Jawa you have to work a lot with heat to get proper fittings. There is many a marital drama known about Jawa engine cases or gearboxes in the kitchen stove....

    The plugs we heated because we 'drowned' her with the first start trials. Again missing the technical english.
    Anyway, to much petrol in the cylinder and a wet plug.

    Thanks again for the comments. Tomorrow I'll either go to the workshop to work on the MZ for our next winter ride or post again

    about arriving here

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    fotos by bastardo

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  7. asphaltmueller

    asphaltmueller nomad acc. § 2(3)AVV

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    so a short installment in the morning

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    we arrived at the castle and found our preferred tent space unoccupied, set up tent and rested a bit


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    our tent was behind the low wall on the right

    this castle on the River Main is situated about 80 ks south-south-east of Frankfurt, in some very hilly country, the Spessart forest.

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    There is one distinct feature : you can not drive up with a bus, and so tourists don't come in numbers.
    In a more touristy place we would very likely not be able to hold the meeting - riding in to the court yard of a medieval fortress-where can you still do that in Europe ?

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    I don't mention the name any more on purpose, the place has gotten small as it is.
    There is an Inn-keeper, with which we have our arrangement, and the mayor doesn't mind the tourists.
    Authorities higher up need not get involved.

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    time to go to work; next installment will be about people and cooking; likely bikes, too

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  8. therion

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    That´s the true spirit !
    Greetz
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  9. H96669

    H96669 A proud pragmatist.

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    Yes, I like the spirit. And seeing the Feather 442 in action.:clap I have the same stove, pretty beat up but I carry spare parts for it, should install them so I don't have to use my engine oil to lube the pump almost everyday.For some reason Olive oil doesn't work too good on that pump seal.:wink: And the new generator so the stove fully shuts down instead of sputtering.:rofl

    Yep, my 442 has been used for mechanical purposes before. And will be again if my BMW RD bearing fails on the road.:rofl

    Roadside mechanics,please vote with me, "rate thread":wink:.....that one needs stars. At least 3 for.....inspiration.:thumb:thumb:thumb
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  10. therion

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    I had the same problem with my Coleman . Changed the rubber seal in the pump for a leather one.
    I made the pump leather from an old boot but there is a repair kit available too.
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  11. H96669

    H96669 A proud pragmatist.

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    I got the parts, same seal in the lanterns and I have a few of them,maybe I am just waiting for total roadside failure to kick myself into action. :wink: Funny the full repair kit with the plunger is N/A from Coleman USA til 2013, but the seal only is. And they also sell special lube for the pump.:wink: I cook for a living....was just my way to comment on the olive oil and maybe "non-stick" spray I saw on the food table.

    Mechanical heating trick I learned on here, you can if you want put the parts in a good ziploc bag with some oil of your choice then drop that in boiling water. Apparently works well for BMW Rear Drive bearings so could work on other applications.

    Enough :pot lets see more bikes and stars.:clap
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  12. Viking from Denmark

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    Just Great Story :clap
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  13. asphaltmueller

    asphaltmueller nomad acc. § 2(3)AVV

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    thanks for the discussion above, as we had taken apart my Coleman the weekend and the pump seal is broken. I will try to replace it with a leather spare of my phoebus cooker.

    Anyway, we have arrived at the castle after about 3.000 kms on a bike 'the average German rider wouldn't want to ride out of the garage' to quote Justus.

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    meeting friends we see to seldom

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    and cook with them

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    The cooking is nothing 'officially' endorsed or programmed. there's just a few guys who like it, and they tend to camp in the same space.

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    especially Falk is a great cook and master of ceremony

    and there's bikes to be seen and discussed

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    minimalistic Beemer

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    the lady riding that Guzzi hack weighs hardly a 100 pounds, if at all

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    the Dutch and the Welsh - not on scrap bikes, but highly welcome friends (and tough winter riders)

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    chatting

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    about bikes

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    that's 'Miss Lehmann'

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    nice Triumph, see spare pilot fuel at he rear wheel

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    remember,all those bikes have to pass the TÜV, the technical inspection (but the few foreigners)

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    having a drink once in a while

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    the weather wasn't to stable that day, but it would get worse

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    coffee, turkish tea or wine - table after a rain shower

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    the org-tent

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    liquids depot

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    teaching the young ( he does have a bike trice as old as him and up and running now)

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    tightening the chain

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    HillBillies

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    hope I will be back sooner than last time, but work right now is a bit demanding and there's some other things to care about - including preparing the MZ for the winter meeting
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  14. nanno

    nanno Been here awhile

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    As a matter of fact we heated the piston, because the gudgeon pin didn't want to go in at all (it is intended to be an interference fit after all, but the bore in one piston was a lot tighter than the other).

    Heating the spark plugs was to prevent them from sooting, when firing the engine up (which took quite a few kicks until the b*st*rd ran again) with lots of extra oil in the bore.
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  15. altf4

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    hi andi,
    a truly enjoyable read - got well immersed in it o)

    see you, max ~:)
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