About Schmidt

Discussion in 'New Zealand' started by Padmei, Aug 13, 2010.

  1. Box'a'bits

    Box'a'bits In need of repair

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    Yes. :D All the same from 1970.

    Padmei, what symptoms you are seeing?
  2. Padmei

    Padmei enamoured

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    Thanks guys.
    i'm off to th bach soon but long story short(ened) the batt was cranking slow, charge lite not on. checked lamp etc, brushes worn, replaced brushes , charge lite came on & went off as it should. Voltage at diode red wire point 16volts!!!, voltage at blue wire connection to reg (cant remmeber but lot lower) book says over 1.5v diff diode board stuffed less than 0.5 v reg stuffed.
    Took diode board out of berlina & repaired break with solder & araldite. installed & left batt to charge up overnite.
    bought lil multimeter & rigged up to read off cig liter outlet. batt sitting at 13 volts, running at 12.8v over 3k revs up to 13.65v & sits there nicley till revs drop.

    Checked schmidts diode board this morn with diode func on mm. seemed ok so maybe there was something wrong with my voltage reading - managed to short the board out to the case as well when trying to test it. -
    readings on mm testing mm in diode func was 320 (K ohm? M ohms?) thru all them.

    Voltage regs - how do they work? just a few caps? I read any type would do & I s'pose that'd be right

    I have been planning to do an update & will do when back from bach next week. Take care - I've been missing our lil chats:D



    Oh & ps Jaz haven't you got a touratech catalogue you could read instead of bugging us real adv bikers?
  3. NordieBoy

    NordieBoy Armature speller

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    I've got one...
  4. Voltaire

    Voltaire Titanium and Ceramic Hipster

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    I had a rummage and found the one that came with an R80 as a 'good' spare.....looks to have had some soldering done.
    PM me you address and I can post it down. :deal
  5. Padmei

    Padmei enamoured

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    Quite often I have pondered upon the magic music possesses that can transport the listener back in time to the first time they heard a tune or a significant event.
    I first heard this sitting in the wood-paneled dining room of my brothers house in front of a fire while the grey skies closed in outside. There were white cans of Steinlager, pouches of Port Royal & the talk was of recently finished paintball warfare.

    Blind Faith - Had to cry today

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    The kids starting back at school heralds a shift back to the normality of regular life. This summer has been a good one for riding but not as productive in the workshop.

    I have had a few rides around the Nelson Marlborough area including Mt Patriarch, Golden bay a few times, over the old maungatapu track & around Wairoa Gorge & the Moutere.

    Unfortunately I didn't get to the Dusty Butt which in hindsight is disappointing however made the call at the time with the best knowledge I had that was indicating a cold wet time was to be expected. From the pics & reports it may have been the best one yet.

    A highlight ride I undertook was revisiting Mt Patriarch on a hot dry clear day with a mate Steve. He trailered over his YZ450 & met me at the Wairau bridge.
    I rate the road in to Lake Chalice & Mt Pat as a fantastically fun road. The surface has a clay base with a scattering of light gravel with many tight corners but few butt clenchers.

    Here's Steve
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    Lake Chalice
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    Yours truly
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    View of the Wairau from the top

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    The carpark. We went for a walk to the top of a couple of the closer peaks but not to the top
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    Schmidt cooling down
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    It was scorching hot as we rode down. The temps must have been in the mid 30s.
  6. Padmei

    Padmei enamoured

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    I spent a bit of time on the workshop working on a few things. The unusual electrical problem I had with the charging circuit seemed to disappear with a diode swap from Berlina. As happens at times like this the starter motor then began squealing when starting. I took it apart, cleaned & greased everything that looked like it should be.
    The starter motor teeth were looking worn however luckily the flywheel teeth were good so I spose the starter teeth are the sacrificial part. I had a look at Berlinas one & Schmidts ones looked very good in comparison.

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    I also minutemended those nasty lil nuts to the rear of the starter to save from having to do unusual yoga positions with my fingers holding them in place.

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    There has been a KLR seat knocking around for a while & I decided to have a go at modifying it to fit Schmidt.
    I lengthened the base with some plastic switchboard plastic & a heat gun. That was riveted on.

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    I cut some foam & glued it over the new section.

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    After a bit of experimenting I found that a grinder with steel cutoff blade was the best tool to trim & shape the foam. I was unusually patient & tried to get as close a smooth edge between old & new as possible.

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    Stretching & keeping the fabric in place was a head scratcher I was intending to stretch & staple the fabric to the base however my stapler wouldn't even look at it. The fabric surprisingly had no stretch to it so I resorted to a spray adhesive. It worked very well though the joins are more visible than I hoped. After a few grubby handprints & muddy butts on it it will look quite worn in.

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    Costs-
    $20 glue
    $10 imitation suede
    $5 foam
    a fair few hours labour
  7. NordieBoy

    NordieBoy Armature speller

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    Normally you'd staple it fore and aft and then hit it with a heat gun top get the stretch. But the suede may not have liked that...
  8. Kokopelli

    Kokopelli Yeah, right!

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    It looks like it should be baked first.:huh
  9. innathyzit

    innathyzit AKA Woodman

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    Slowly KLRising Schmidt:clap.

    Salad fork is still there btw. I'm watching you.
  10. Padmei

    Padmei enamoured

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    You guys are funny
  11. Box'a'bits

    Box'a'bits In need of repair

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    Did you swap the starter out of the R65, or has Schmidtty always have a Bosch starter while you've had him?

    Woodmans right about KLRing Schmiddty...
  12. Padmei

    Padmei enamoured

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    I was just about to say it's a Valerie cos I distinctly remember seeing the bearing saying 'made in Spain' but had to recheck. Anyway yeah i haven't changed them over. Isn't Valeo the better more up to date starter?
  13. innathyzit

    innathyzit AKA Woodman

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    I have my old gas tank here if you wanna see if that fits.
  14. Box'a'bits

    Box'a'bits In need of repair

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    The Valeos are a better (faster spinning & less current draw) starter, but had a reputation for losing magnets, so many people swapped them out for (the older, more reliable) Bosch starters (Gus is using a Bosch starter at present because exactly that has happened). But now you can buy replacement (& improved) parts for the Valeos, that fault is resolved.

    Boschs have always been fully rebuildable. Up until the last few years, the Valeos were a throw away item.

    Do you have a mount on the timing case to support the front of the starter? That should be there...The Valeos don't have those because weight wasn't such an issue.
  15. Padmei

    Padmei enamoured

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    Hmm lets see at last look Schmidt was wearing
    Lifan front guard

    Suzuki GSXR front brake caliper

    KLR 650
    Clutch perch, front brake MC & lever, seat, wiring loom

    Yamaha R1 exhaust

    Methven choke controls

    A pretty good even mixture i thought The only ones being left out are Honda & KTM. Oh well I'm sure they'll be alright knowing they're missing out.

    Finished my tool roll too. Now to make up the saddle bags. I'm thinking western style:D

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    Yes but strangely enough it wasn't bolted on. I bolted it on and then the squealing started so left it off thinking it may somehow be disaligning the starter & teeth but after cleaning the starter the squealing stopped. so I will rebolt it later.

    I'm still waiting for my gearbox bits to come back from the machine shop - after a month. I may have to stop being mr laid-back 'just do it when you have time, no urgent hurry etc etc' as it always seems to backfire on me. If it's not done next week I may have to do the humiliating go in & pick it up & take it to someone else thing.

    The gaiter is still ripped to shreds & the duct tape has come off so I will have to retape it till my gearbox is ready to be reinstalled.
  16. NordieBoy

    NordieBoy Armature speller

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    You want a pair of old Willie & Max saddle bags to play with/chop up?
  17. Padmei

    Padmei enamoured

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  18. Kokopelli

    Kokopelli Yeah, right!

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  19. Padmei

    Padmei enamoured

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    yes but do you know where to bend the wire so it works properly. I bet you wouldn't have minded spending that 30bucks when you're in the middle of nowhere:evil
  20. igormortis

    igormortis Cafe Reise

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    Hadn't seen that before... interesting...
    I did have that same thought...
    ...but now I'm considering it.