Accepted!! BC61 headed to Dakar Argentina - Chile - Peru 2012

Discussion in 'Racing' started by BC61, Aug 1, 2011.

  1. BC61

    BC61 Long timer

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    Yes, it was a crash. A minor fall that resulted in a ridiculous amount of damage. The leverage of the wide skid plate ripped the front mounts off. Different mounting points may have prevented this, maybe not. Unfortunately an expensive R&D lesson.
  2. dentvet

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    hey bc, it seemed like you had as much pace as any of the ammy americans on stage two, at least that is my recollection of following the f5 thread in real time. Were you pushing at all? Were you happy with your timings relative to the expected competition?

    Do you still have the original bike and all the spares? At least the original chassis has low hours, right? you don't have to start from nothing to get back to dakar, or am i missing something?

    Sorry the race ended early for you and i hope you can find your way back there to finish your dakar business:freaky
  3. darrendeep6

    darrendeep6 BMW Dirty Dozen

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    Thanks for the info, I ASSumed the SpeedBrain kit was production based. I should of known it wasn't going to be as easy as plug and play.
  4. Brodovitch

    Brodovitch Team ⌘R

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    What was the container on the skid plate holding on the right hand side (next to the water pump)?

    Assuming you could hold all necessary fuel in the rear of the bike (+ the container behind the cylinder head)
    would you reconsider moving the 3 litres of water to somewhere behind the handlebars (where you had the Safari tank IIRC)...

    Tools could then go on the rear fender, and you would only need a (slightly beefed up) enduro-type skid plate to protect the engine.

    I think Manuel Lucchese did something like that on his Husaberg, (that is, no compartments welded onto the skid plate,
    he just ran a minimal skid plate. Too minimal for my taste, but hey):

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    Not sure where he stashed the water supply.

    The 449's placement of the water pump down there warrants some different thinking... here is the Bianchi Prata version,
    but I'm not sure they have factored in the 3 litre water container:

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    As you can see they have the plastic guard on, but a similar design in thick aluminium, with slightly better side coverage could do the trick just fine... I know hindsight is 20/20 and not trying to preach here, just very interested in how someone could make the new Husky platform work for rallies (that, and the 2010 511 I mentioned is still for sale at a new lower price :lol3)
  5. Seth S

    Seth S Will _____ for _____

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    The nice thing about the bergs is that there are two frame rails running under the engine that do a good job of protecting the engine...allowing for a fairly minimal skidplate wouthout consequence.


    on a side note for fuel injected bikes. After running into fuel pump clogging on the 690 due to dirty fuel in Australia I started thinking about better pump setups for racing. Had I been able to install a new pump I could have carried a spare...this is a topic capable of its own thread. A spare injector is easy to carry and a little trickier to replace but doable in the desert. For Dakar events it might be worth designing a throttle body capable of running 2 injectors with 2 feed lines. If one gets plugged you flip a petcock and a switch and run the other.
  6. Dread Pendragon

    Dread Pendragon Don't look back

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    RussianBear, I kind of stuck up for you at the beginning, but there seems to be more going on than you just having different perspectives on Bill's situation. I know the rest of your last post was "friendly," but mostly in a condescending, know-it-all way.

    At first I thought maybe you'd keep jumping in with your criticisms and condescending advice just because you might be defensive after people jumped on your first post. But you're still at it after all this time, writing the same crap, trying to sound as if it's innocent observations but knowing that it will provoke people in the same way.

    It's a non sequitur to lecture Bill that he shouldn't be "blaming the bike" in response to his comment:
    That comment doesn't "blame the bike," it's an acknowledgement of the choices he made when building the bike. It looks like you're trying hard to provoke just to be provocative and get attention while trying to sound innocent.

    Whatever you're getting out of doing what you do, you are doing it at the expense of Bill and others. You can be accepted here even if you see things differently than others, but don't be a drama queen about it.

    Well, based on what you keep doing I guess what you want isn't really "acceptance," but whatever it is you want, there are better ways to get it, less narcissistic ways.

    Everyone else in this forum has their flaws too, but you need to find a way to not poke everyone in the eye to get attention.

    If you can't change, go start a thread in Jo Mama and say whatever you want instead of trying to make Bill's thread about you. If you've got an axe to grind with Bill then just be a man and pm him directly and be out with it. The games you're playing here aren't doing yourself or anyone else any good.
  7. SansSand

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    I hope we don't get caught up in replies to RB. *I don't have time to weed thru it all. *I would like some responses to other posters; questions that probably got lost. See above.

    As a newbie...I am fascinated that there are more solutions to the challenge...well..then there is money. *I love hearing the thoughts and generosity of other racers.
    Would love to here about the heat, clothing choice, how everything got back state side etc.

    But also respect if you don't feel like sharing the past and want to move on...to 2013! :clap

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  8. DangT-100

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    Hey BC61-really enjoyed watching your thread&site..thought the bike was great...good luck on future plans
  9. Dread Pendragon

    Dread Pendragon Don't look back

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  10. Blur

    Blur Peddlin' motorcycles!

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    Actually, had the skidplate not been built so well, it may not have done the damage it did.

    I doubt the clamps holding the skidplate were built in the Carolinas.... Russia maybe.... but not the Carolinas.

    Edit: To all - my apologies for dredging this up. I've been out of town this weekend and just now catching up.
  11. silverboy

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    Thats funny! Its almost even productive!

    Bill, you should come out West this spring with version 2.0 and we'll beat the crap out of it in the desert for a few days:freaky

    I think its great that you are building your own bike. Coming from a manufacturer id expect nothing less than perfection. Building it yourself truly puts you in a higher league regardless of the races outcome.

    Seriously, Moab this spring. Rocks, sand, and fast dirt roads. It will seem like a day trip compared to South America!
  12. eddie98

    eddie98 Been here awhile

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    Bill, glad you are back. Now post some pics :D
  13. skibum69

    skibum69 slave to gravity

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    hey Bill, you can always jump on Jimmy Lewis' thread to get yourself back into the Cali desert for some R&D:D. Nice, weeks after the finale we can still get some quality Dakar entertainment. Thanks:thumb
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    That's it, I lost my patience. Doing some pruning. Sorry if I look like a censor.
  15. SansSand

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  16. darrendeep6

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    Thank you!
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    More than appropriate. Some people have nothing of value to offer.

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  18. One Less Harley

    One Less Harley OH.THAT'S GONNA HURT

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    +10:clap, neutered the beast!!! Usually I cringe at the thought...not this time!!!
  19. Blur

    Blur Peddlin' motorcycles!

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    NEDered.

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  20. Brodovitch

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    Thanks Ned,

    now can we please get back to this?

    :D