ACT ADV Riders Thread...Discover the ACT and surrounds

Discussion in 'Australia' started by Oz Nutter, Sep 25, 2010.

  1. hunter_greyghost

    hunter_greyghost XS650 Allroads Traveller

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    Try westnet.com.au wireless broadband Tom, works well for us here in Yass, not sure what you've available down where you are?? :deal
    Cheers
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  2. mezcal

    mezcal Been here awhile

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    Im with internode, bloody good service. Your main problem will be distance to an exchange.
    Some providers will not go over a certain distance because they cannot guarantee quality.
    As far as wireless goes well you might be lucky, depending where that huge bloody mountain range is in relation to you.

    Not sure if anything has changed out that way in the last 2 years, if not get used to imparja TV... on central Australian time lol

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  3. Hoots

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    Out of interest, did that DSMRA Braidwood Bakery run happen a few weeks back?

    We saw a few bikes in Tallaganda that day, but there's never been any sort of write up ...

    Turned out much cooler than expected - might have been a good day for it ...
  4. mezcal

    mezcal Been here awhile

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    Yep it did hoots.
    A guy I rode numerella with went on it, he was on a WR450.
    Apparently a guy on a 650 dakar had a decent buster.

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  5. Hoots

    Hoots Long timer

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    I thought you'd pulled out - would have been good to say hello - were you on the 690 or the 450 ... ?
  6. mezcal

    mezcal Been here awhile

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    Yeah I couldn't make it, the sprocket I ordered near 3 weeks ago only arrived this Tuesday.
    I would have recognized your bike in the crowd had I been there ;)

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  7. Hoots

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    We were stopped at the bottom of Gourock FT, and a little mob of enduros went past in the opposite direction ...

    Could hear a few more in the bush somewhere ...
  8. wiz.au

    wiz.au Long timer

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    That would be yours truly. Coming from Palerang about to turn left onto Muloon Ft, not sure exactly what happened but the bike flipped out, front wheel just spat, and I went down hard. Bike hit the ground on the windscreen and pushed the headlight and windscreen assy back into the forks and handlebars. Got cracked rib both front and back on the left side, cracked right thumb as it took out the right mirror. Elbow and left thigh very technicolour this week. Codeine is my friend for a while yet.

    And I was having an awesome time for the 20mins before on those trails, even the single track PD launched into to start the ride was great, even on the 650. Was pretty upset I chucked it away and hurt too much to continue on. And that the bike was not rideable enough to continue. Just limped it and me home gently.

    Just wish it didn't hurt so much, so I could get stuck into my fork conversion now the bike is stripped down from the crash.

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  9. Hoots

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    What sort of forks have you found for it?
  10. BergDonk

    BergDonk Old Enough to Know Better

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    Wiz has some Yamaha forks. He's been sweating over the details for months :evil

    In the meantime, I have to get some tube bending done for the exhaust on the boss's cage. No one down this way does more than fit replacement exhausts these days, so any suggestions up Canberra way as to who would do a good job at a fair price? Thanks
  11. Ron50

    Ron50 Been here awhile

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    Fred Senger at Tuggeranong Muffler and Exhaust Centre is an old short circuit rider and even sells and fits bike tyres, trading as Tuggeranong Motorcycle Centre, so has a soft spot for bikies in need.
    Worth talking to him, on 62931447.
  12. BergDonk

    BergDonk Old Enough to Know Better

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    Thanks, south side too, more convenient :D
  13. mezcal

    mezcal Been here awhile

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    Sorry to hear about that mate.
    I am riding this weekend with speedy steve and a few others at mogo this weekend, I will let him know how you are fairing.

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  14. wiz.au

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    2001-2004 Yamaha YZ426 USD forks to be exact.
    Those of you not mechanically/engineering minded should probably stop reading now.... :wink:

    OK, the real F650GS Dakar race bikes got WP forks. They are still available for USD$2800 for the kit.

    A long time ago, a guy known as "Radman" decided to try and fit the best forks he could for the most economical price. After a fair bit of research he found that Yamaha YZ/WR forks were pretty decent bit of kit, and could be found for @$400 used in good condition. He was under $1000 when the project was finished and had forks that were pretty close to the performance of the WP kit and 1/3rd the $$$.

    The Yamaha 46mm USD WR/YZ forks are pretty much a "bolt-in" conversion. Well, "bolt-in" with the purchase of a $580 17mm axle conversion kit...if you're not convinced the tiny Nissin brake caliper and 270mm disc from a 109kg bike would pull up a 193kg bike with 120kg rider and luggage reliably. Lots of people have not worried about it and are riding around with the complete Yamaha front wheel and brake setup. But most of those guys have stripped the bike down to it's undies and drilled out every bolt for lightness, and are a lot lighter riders than me, and never carry luggage. Oh, and some stuffing around with the ignition/steering lock is required if you want that to work, no matter what.

    The Yamaha steering head bearings are the same outer size as the BMW ones, and the triple clamps keep the same rake and clearances. The forks are 1 inch longer axle to tip and there are a few options there. You can also raise the rear using raising links. I'm a short arse and can't hardly touch the ground now. Not an option for me to raise the bike another inch! You can drop the forks 1in in the clamps, but this then puts full suspension travel in the range of bottoming out the bike on full compression. I have chosen the final method of shortening the travel by 1 inch, care of Mr Pons when he turns up next month.

    What Mr Donks is talking about, is that for quite some time now I have been working on a different method to the $$$ "Radman Design" 17mm axle conversion kit. My method involves machining out the BMW Hub to 42mm (DONE!) and keeping the 20mm standard Yamaha axle. The difficulty with keeping the Yamaha axle was that there is no such bearing as a 20x40x12mm which is what would be required to fit the BMW hub on the Yamaha axle without modification. The only other options were to sleeve the hub down to 37mm, or machine it out from 40mm to 42mm, to get a bearing with a 20mm ID that would fit and be up to the job. Sleeving with an interference fit both inner and outer was going to be double the work, and very fine tolerances. And the 20x37x_9mm_ Yamaha bearing was much smaller and a fair bit less rated capacity. So I decided to machine the hub out to 42mm. Cost wise, $220 of precision machining work. Add the cost of the caliper adapter ($80) and I'm $200 better off than the axle conversion kit. But what I really like is that with this method I've only a few modified components, most which should never need replacing, or ever break, or wear out...the hub itself and some different length axle spacers. All the rest is standard easily replaced common YZ/WR Yamaha parts, or commonly available bearings and seals. Nothing that could break or wear out is "special". And I get to use a 20mm axle over a 17mm axle.

    The hold up now for this setup (apart from my cracked ribs :cry ), is I want to lace a 21x1.85in rim to this modified hub. That's another $550...but not essential for the forks conversion. Standard Dakar wheel is 21x1.6in and various ppl "in-the-know" reckon it's too small for this bike, and I would be much better off with a 1.85in. Just look at all the KTM +600's. They all have 1.85in rims I have been told?

    So for the moment, I've purchased one of the special 17mm conversion axle kits as a production run of 10 (entire worldwide supply!) was just made, and they are available again for the first time in over 2 years. Later when I have the 1.85in rim, I'll swap wheels and axles. Then I'll on-sell that axle kit to the next "convertee" for pretty much the same price I bought it for...I hope! As they are always in high demand and low availability.

    I will say now that Mr Donks method of sleeving the fork legs and making a new axle from scratch works well too. I may have gone that route, but I like keeping the larger and easily replaced Yamaha axle as standard better for me, and the next person that buys the bike, I feel. Less "custom" parts and modifications.

    Tech stuff end. :D

    Off to Goulburn tomorrow afternoon to get some "fix-er-up" parts from ferals5. Got a side panel coming from USA, and the rest was picked up by the plastic welder yesterday. Should have it on the road again in about two weeks. :clap Will I be ready to ride it?.....hell yeah, I rode it 55km home after crashing it! :evil
  15. Hoots

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    I'm not mechanically minded, but kept reading anyway ...

    Sounds like a great idea ...

    Look forward to seeing a Dakar on long legs ...

    Out of interest, what sort of forks does the X-Challenge use ... ?
  16. wiz.au

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    Un adjustable Marzocchi 45mm USDs. They are a bit bizarre as dampening is in one fork, and rebound in the other, and you have to disassemble them to adjust either setting!

    Standard upgrade on those is to switch in Marzocchi Shivers. Same as used on Simon Pavey's 450 Dakar race bike.

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    Well, slightly shortened "long legs" that should end up the same length and ride height but slightly more travel and a whole lot better performance and tuneability. Rear already has slightly longer Ohlins which transformed the bike from being a pig to ride in the rougher stuff, to just being delightful to nail and power on. Hoping fork upgrade will meet my expectations too, as there's plenty of similar "it transformed my bike" stories post upgrades. Only one guy I know of has ever gone back to OEM forks, and thats because he pretty much only rode city streets.
  18. Hoots

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    This (left/right) configuration has been adopted for the new 2014 KTM 690 enduros ...

    Although you won't have to disassemble to adjust ...
  19. BergDonk

    BergDonk Old Enough to Know Better

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    Having separate rebound and compression damping adjustment in fork legs isn't uncommon. Mostly, they still have both in each leg, its just that the adjustment for only one is in each leg. My 98 FE501 is an example with its 50 mm Marzocchis

    Some newer MX forks like on KXFs only have one spring to save overall weight.
  20. wiz.au

    wiz.au Long timer

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    Finding it hard get a HP4 front tyre at a decent price locally. Have found a USA based supplier that will ship to Australia. Best price break works out at 5 pieces. I'll take two, but if anyone wanted to put their hand up for any of the other three? Total cost landed at my door is about AUD$121 per tyre. I was trying to get it below $100ea, but as you can imagine, shipping 5x 21in front tyres costs a lot, even though it's all "air" and not very heavy.

    Oh, and delivery to you would be free if you accept we might have to meet up somewhere "half-way" if you live out of Canberra.

    Or does anyone know a supplier of HP4 tyres for less than $120 a piece landed?