Adaptive cruise control coming??

Discussion in 'Ridiculous streetbikes with 6 CPUs and too much HP' started by Barekat, May 14, 2018.

  1. Barekat

    Barekat Looking to get dirty

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  2. TheBritAbroad

    TheBritAbroad Just ride.

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    They can’t get a TFT display right, but soon they’re going to want us to beta test that?

    I think I’ll wait until about the seventh year of production. :brow
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  3. Wodger63

    Wodger63 Long timer

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    Fuck all that.
    So the manufactures charge more and more for technology just so we can have less and less control of what we're are doing.
    I'm not condoning risky behavior but without risk there's is no reward.
    If it get's to the point all I need to do is sit there and the bike takes care of the rest, might as well sit in my air conditioned car not exposed to the elements.
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  4. rick danger

    rick danger Off the wagon

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    Would be ok with me. they just need to get the distance further. Not far enough in my car and truck to avoid rock chips. With the bike, I would just want more reaction time. But of course the whole thing would be for certain situations only. Wouldnt mean take a nap.:lol3
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  5. KMC1

    KMC1 There is no spoon.

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    People want to be able to be on their phones and tablets instead of driving or experiencing life.
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  6. Widgeon23

    Widgeon23 Uneasy Rider

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    Such an odd application of the technology. Adds weight, more elctronics, sensors... all for something that yields no real benefit. I get it in cars, but you really need to remain engaged with the bike to be safe. It only takes a moment...
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  7. neilc

    neilc Been here awhile

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    Before KTM try something new perhaps they could cum up with a fix for the crappy CC on the 1290SA the worlds worst CC
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  8. Bluesilver

    Bluesilver Long timer

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    How is that, the 1290SAT yes agree and why I never changed my 1190S, the 1290SAS is the next gen and works brilliantly, so I bought one and loving it.
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  9. mhr650

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    The adaptive cruise control isn’t really about cruise control, it’s about getting the technology on the bike for autonomous braking in an emergency. Technology like that is becoming standard on all cars and likely to be mandated soon. I know that a lot of people will hate the idea of the bike doing things on its own but I know that I have had a few pucker moments over the years when I wasn’t concentrating or looking the wrong way and came up on a car stopped in the road while turning or a car pulling out onto the road.
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  10. kingoffat

    kingoffat Been here awhile

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    I agree the cruise control is great on the SAS much better then the BMW.

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  11. CO303

    CO303 Been here awhile

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    I like the CC on my 1290 SAR.
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  12. Hvymax

    Hvymax Been here awhile

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    I have a $50 throttle lock on my KLR. IMG_20180426_161437980.jpg
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  13. Barekat

    Barekat Looking to get dirty

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    Which is appropriate for a klr. :hide
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  14. SRTie4k

    SRTie4k Northeast Explorer

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    Man a lot of you guys are just as crotchety and ignorant as the rest of the old-as-fuck Luddites on this forum.

    I'm all for radar cruise control, in fact that is the one thing I always thought would make the 1290SAT perfect. No, it's not so that I can text while I'm riding, it's so that I don't have to play the "car coming, there's a guy in the left lane, cancel cruise control, wait for left lane guy to move, move over, resume cruise control, oh wait left lane guy decided to slow down, cancel cruise control, merge back, undertake left lane camper, merge back into left lane, resume cruise, overtake original car, merge back...oh wait another car coming up, now left lane guy has increased speed again...rinse repeat".

    I'd much rather "engage cruise control"...and that's it.

    And if your only complaint is "KTM adds too many electronics", then don't buy a f*cking KTM, that's why Honda and Yamaha exist. Or maybe buy a 1090R if you have to have orange. Bleeding edge technology is part of what makes KTM special. There are plenty of other options out there if you all you care about is bragging how your right wrist is all the traction control you'll ever need.
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  15. Deviant

    Deviant aka KTM 1290SAdvR

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    I won't knock it till I try it but I don't tour enough, or spend enough time behind cars, to want to pay extra for adaptive CC. I do use and love the CC on my SAR. The boring sections to and from the fun ones are way more tolerable with CC.
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  16. Delnari

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    Have been reading about this from Continental Automotive Company since late last year. Rumor is they will be installing in the new generation BMW GS/RT bikes which are getting a slight increase in displacement and VVT for more HP.
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  17. Deviant

    Deviant aka KTM 1290SAdvR

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    And price.
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  18. Delnari

    Delnari Tom

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    Its really crazy how BMW keeps increasing their prices every year! I bought a 2016 R1200 GSA two years ago for $21K and now the 2018 version is over $24K. Looks like it won't be long before large adventure bikes hit the $30K mark.

    When I found my KTM for under $15K new I thought that is a bargain; how can I lose :fpalm
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  19. nostatic

    nostatic i drank what?!? - Socrates

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    Things that lower rider fatigue (physical and mental) are good. Things that lower rider situational awareness are *not* good.

    Some argue that ABS/TC/etc are bad. I don't agree with that as they can help when a rider makes a judgement error or road conditions catch someone by surprise. I don't lower my situational awareness thinking, "oh, TC will save my ass." Adaptive cruise control though is all about enabling "safety" for drivers who are lowering their situational awareness. Plus cars largely try to avoid accidents by braking (which adaptive CC is optimized for). Motorcycles often can use steering and acceleration to avoid threats due to the much smaller footprint.

    I ride to be in the moment. I use CC to lower right hand fatigue which allows my brain to track more important things - like the bozo to the left of me on his cell phone.

    Then again, I also don't get riders using BT and listening to music while riding. But different strokes...
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  20. 3rdgeargrndrr

    3rdgeargrndrr Been here awhile

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    I figured this too,
    wear a Leatt neck brace, in case of endo,

    BMW and Honda are working on self upright bikes,
    My wifes new 18 highlander keeps itself in the lane handsfree, my brothers Tesla X can drive itself home. Autonomous Uber vehicles already on the streets.,
    This is all expected tech to me,


    That means KTM will continue to gain market share.
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