adirondack park ny...good dirt roads

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  1. Desert Penguin

    Desert Penguin Farts Are Funny

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    im headed from ct up through adirondack park in ny and ending just north of saranac lake, anyone have any info on some good dirt roads? going to be trying to avoid as much pavement as possible. i have never been up in that area and am trying to figure some route ideas. any help would be great.
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  2. RJP

    RJP Time-Deficient Adventurer

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    I have found there are few "through" dirtroads in the Dacks in the high peaks area. The dirt usually ends at a trailhead.

    I believe there are no legal public ATV trails in NY.

    Try heading through eastern Mass on the way through. As long as it's past May 1st, you can take a detour through select state forests w/D/S.

    BTW - In CT, there are many dirt roads in Roxbury, Litchfield, Washington, etc. Last weekend explored "dashed" lines in this area and stayed off pavement for much of the day. I was reasearching "put-in" and "take-out" points for kayaking, but enjoyed the inbetween.

    Just my 2cents...
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    RJP Time-Deficient Adventurer

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    Here are a few Route pieces of CT 250 mile kayak recon loop.
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    cool thanks for the info. guess we'll just hope to hit as little pavement as possible. it's going to be the weekend of the april 28th so that that rules out the mass parks(maybe).
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  5. conibear

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    There is the Powley - Piseco road which paralells Route 10 from Salisbury to Piseco (it might not yet be open by the 28th) A little out of your way but there is also a long dirt route from Big Moose, Stillwater, then down along the Beaver River (Soft Maple - Effey Falls).

    Plenty of legal atv trails around outside the park that are do-able on a bike. Norway - Salisbury area, Tug Hill, Brasher Falls....
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    hmmm
    not really tracks... bunch of waypoints, but not really connected.:confused
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    Mostly Southern / Western routes and tracks, but I will add them here for anyone looking for some ADK or close to ADK dirt routes.

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    Some Tug Hill routes and tracks.....

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    Just for your info....Motor vehicles are not allowed ANYWHERE on public lands in Adirondack Park - except on public roads (paved and dirt) if it is fully licensed, etc.
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    I was just on this road and as of this weekend and even though it was 70+ degrees for a few days the southern part was still under snow. Not deep, but wet and icy from the 4wd traffic. The car tracks were starting to get real muddy also, which made for some interesting traction. Can image it is worse up where it hits route 10. Might be OK by the time you are ready to go, but... Nice country through there, you can't beat that fresh air.
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    You might also want to look at Military Road. It runs part dirt/part paved/part seasonal from Hinckley NY down to around Dolgeville. Sometimes it is not marked on maps, but where it seems to end that is the seasonal part. However Dolgeville is just on the southern border of the park so it might be out of your way. just an FYI

    I was also on the seasonal part of this road this week and it too is icy/ and muddy.
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    4/21 - part of Military Road....

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    Gonna be soft up there for a while still. And greasy.
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    Conibear, Thanks for posting those GPX files. I just moved to Watertown in January and have been looking forward to heading over to the ADK state park. Do you think I will be able to get away with Tourance tires or should I get some TKCs?
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    Inside the park the legal truck trails and seasonal roads should be in good shape and pretty easy riding (once the frost goes out). Outside the park it is possible to find a few muddy and narrow atv trails where a knobbier tire would help.
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    conibear, you're the man.
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    Browns Tract road between Raquette Lake and Eagle Bay is a nice detour, mostly dirt, off of 28 for those headed that way.

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    The Indian is near the Raquette Lake end...
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    Thanks Conibear. I didn't know about that one. I'll have to check it out come spring. Would be nice if you could make a loop from there down thru Moose River Plains but the state doesn't want us outlaw bikers there!
    For those of you who are not familiar with Moose River Plains recreation area, it's a huge piece of state land with a 23 mile dirt road that runs through it between Indian Lake and Inlet. Even though it is a maintained road, motorcycles are not allowed! I always wondered why, and even if it's legal to ban two wheeled vehicles from a public roadway. This fall I was there camping and talked to a very cool ranger. He said that when the state took over the area in the 60's there were big problems in Old Forge and Inlet with "Biker Gangs" "Hells Angels" so they banned all motorcycles to keep the area free of them. He thought they kept the rule in place now to keep out dual sport riders from riding off the road where they shouldn't be. He's a fairly young guy that grew up in the area. He said he suggested when he was a newbie ranger that since the area is supposed to be a "recreation area" that there should be a section for ATV's to use. Provide a place for them to ride so they don't ride where they shouldn't be. Well, you can imagine how that went over! They (Albany) are working on a "plan" for the area. Some want to close down the road to motor vehicle traffic all together. He said some dignitaries came up from Albany to check the area out last summer. He noted "They didn't walk in, they drove".

    Rant over.....

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    I wrote all my state representatives about the subject last summer, but I missed the period for public comment on the proposed final UMP for the Moose River Plains. I did get this reply from my assemblyman:

    Dear Bill:

    Thank you for your recent e-mail regarding DEC regulations
    which exclude motorcycles from the Limekiln Lake-Cedar River Road. I
    appreciate you writing and keeping me informed of your concerns.

    Originally put into effect during the 1970's; the original intent of 6
    NYCRR Part 196.3 (c) was to prevent organized motorcycle gangs from
    congregating on the roads in the forest preserved in unsupervised
    areas. As part of the Draft Unit Management Plan, it has been
    recommended that this provision be removed and that motorcycles be
    allowed to travel on the Limekiln Lake-Cedar River Road. The Draft Unit
    Management Plan has been out for public comment and DEC is in the
    process of making adaptations per the public comment and hopes to
    provide it to the Adirondacks Park Agency for approval by the end of the
    summer. While it uncertain when final regulations will be made and take
    effect, the concerns surrounding this issue have been voiced and the
    Department recognizes the need for adaptation.

    If I can be of further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me.

    Sincerely,

    David R. Townsend
    Member of Assembly


    Given the politics of this state it is hard to say how it will end up, but the general trend as been towards increasing restrictions and limiting access.

    I have talked to a few rangers and state employees myself, and have yet to find one who thought the motorcycle restriction made sense in this day and age.
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