Adventure in Ohio?

Discussion in 'Central – From Da Nort Woods to the Plane States' started by somecallmetim, Nov 14, 2003.

  1. Gonzo_Matt

    Gonzo_Matt Random Hero

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    I'm not arguing or disagreeing, because I don't even understand this stuff at a distance, but I am curious; why should this be true? How does hitting a pothole "unbalance" a tire?

    You balance a tire/wheel because all sections or segments of the tire/wheel don't weigh the same. You add weight to one section to attempt to "balance" these inequalities. I understand that tires wear unevenly and this weight distribution changes over time, but don't understand how hitting a pothole would change a tire/wheel weight distribution.[/QUOTE]

    I'm not a tire engineer, but I can tell you that even on a car tire, it can be balanced to zero, driven into a curb, or driven a couple hundred miles, and be way out again. I have seen it time and time again.
  2. rxcrider

    rxcrider Long timer

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    Out of curiosity, how much is he charging to mount tires? (bringing him the wheel off the bike) I have two guys in this area who have done my BMW tire swaps for me: $20 & $25 with balancing. I'm assuming the strom is tubeless.

    Does the bike have a center stand? If so, I'd put on the stand and put it in gear with the engine running (after making sure the rear wheel is off the ground) Then look for runout or a bulge in the tread or sidewall.
  3. buildit

    buildit Guns, bikes and Bows

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    You know I'm wondering if the front rim might be bent. I bent mine before screwing around. Strom rims aren't exactly made for what the bike can do. :rolleyes
  4. z@ch

    z@ch Turn it up to eleven

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    I'm guessing the spacer from between the cush drive and the wheel was left out.

    Or it's a bad tire.
  5. Mikef5000

    Mikef5000 Long timer

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    Interesting! I stopped balancing street bike tires years ago, but I did balance my new adv tires. I figure, with that much rubber (semi-knobby, 50/50 tire) the chance of it being noticeably out of balance were greater.
  6. ImaPoser

    ImaPoser adventure imposter

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    That is the worst chip seal job I have ever seen.
  7. MeefZah

    MeefZah Curmudgeonly

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    He mounts them free if I get them from him and he will do that with them still on the bike, I've been using him for 10 years almost so I get the better customer rate. I guess not balancing them is not so much a cost issue as it is I don't think it's really needed and I don't want him to do work I won't appreciate anyway.

    No bulges, or other deformities noted to tire.

    Swingarm bearings, I guess, are okay. There is no obvious play in the swingarm except the up and down travel it should have.

    Front rim appears true, and the worst riding I've done in a few months is hop some curbs.

    Zach - Possibly a bad tire, I got a PM from penner saying the same thing about his experience with a new 705. I guess we'll see.
  8. indypup

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    :rofl

    That was on the poughkeepsie trail in Colorado. It's marked as a down only trail but we were going up it to try to save time because it was getting late. Big mistake, it took us about two hours to get up that gulch. This trail is probably the most technically challenging trail in the Ouray area.
  9. dox

    dox How much for the ape?

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    After installing my own tires, I'm too lazy to balance them. Never really notice a problem with it. :dunno

    The only thing balanced about my tires is the huge stack of them that is about to fall over in my garage. The Leaning Tower of Tourances. Guess I should stop procrastinating about taking them to be recycled.
  10. indypup

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    I have probably 20~30 tires that I need to take down to the river too. ;)
  11. OhioPT

    OhioPT Adventure Wannabe

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    We did that trail, going down though like you're supposed to :D If you want challenging, ride the Alpine Trail next time :evil

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    Alpine Trail Info (note, Enduro-ince is an A level rider): http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134174
  12. dyrtybyrd

    dyrtybyrd Been here awhile

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    Dox, I don't think your stack of Tourances is balanced either........if they are, in fact leaning and about to fall over. :rofl
  13. indypup

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    I'll have to check that out. I'm really not sure what we did or didn't do. I went with a bunch of guys from Indiana and I just tried to follow them and keep up. :huh

    I know I did some shit that I would have never thought that I would have done ever! For example...Landon and I were going up this really steep rocky section of a trail at Spring Creek pass that was marked as no motorized traffic (Forest service map said otherwise though) and his clutch went out about 20 feet from the top and I decided to keep going on alone without maps or a GPS. :( Pretty dumb but I survived. I continued across the snow mesa on the Colorado trail/La Garita Stock Trail until I reached the first junction. Well Landon had told me to take Mineral Creek trail but I had forgotten what he said except that it had creek in it. :( So I took Rough Creek trail instead. Well rough Creek takes you into the La Garita Wilderness! So I'm alone in the middle of a wilderness which I didn't know until I got back to camp. All I know was that I was the first person to ever try to take a motorcycle down this trail. I lost the trail several times, had to bypass down trees, etc. Of course it's all single track. I have video of it but haven't done anything with it since I wasn't supposed to be in the wilderness on a motorcycle. I thought I was going to die several times. :eek1 Not once did I see a sign saying that I was in a wilderness.

    This was the sign at the junction that I came to. I think that faded one on the bottom was the warning about staying out of the wilderness but as you can tell..you can't read it. :(
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    Oh, Landon pushed his bike back down the hill to 149 and got help from the forest service workers but not until they gave him crap about being on that trail... :(
  14. mpenner

    mpenner Heavy Cruiser

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    I just got a call that my V-Strom is running again and will be ready to be picked up this evening. :clap:clap:clap

    Hopefully it is all set to make it to 100k miles without any major service.
  15. Danjal

    Danjal Insert wit here.

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    Did they ever say what the problem was?
  16. Mikef5000

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    Made my weekly visit to the Luarelville playground yesterday on the WRR. As I pulled up the the BP around 1:30, a group of bikes was pulling out. It was a hell of a variety; there were a couple mid-sized dual sports (400-650 range), a decked out KTM 990 Adventure (with rider decked out in dirt gear) a big burgman type scooter, and a Strom hack with a utility side car. I filled up quickly and raced to catch them, which I successfully did, but they turned left of Big Pine road (enjoyable scenic paved backroad), I left them to hit dirt (they were just putting along in a slow and steady fashion anyway). Anyone have a clue who they were?

    Had an 'on' day, so i hit some paths (hill climbs) I never would've dreamed of riding a month ago. Pull off one climb in particular that I was proud of; a very steep and curvy incline; smooth and soft dirt, so the tire just stuck while I stood over the front tire.

    Not sure if the front is getting worn out on me (still looks fine), or if it was just over-inflated, but it was washing out all over. Perhaps I'm just getting faster, and I'm closing in on the limit of the 50/50 tire? Doubt it.

    On my way home I ended up on a ridiculous trail. The GPS had it as a road, so I didn't even know what I was getting into. Unfortunately I came the wrong way on it, and went up one nasty hill climb. Not too steep, but huge rocks and steps. It probably didn't help that it was the end of my day and I was worn out. Stalled it twice going up steps and fell to the left both times. I stayed standing both times, but the bike landed hard on rocks.
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    Bent the footpeg and handlebars.

    I WILL be hitting that trail some more, but the other direction would be better.

    Stopped by a mom and pop bike shop on the way home (which turned out to be pop and daughter bike shop :evil), but they could only get aftermarket pegs, and they were $130-$150. Pass. Back at home I hit it a few times with the 5 pound sledge and flattened it out. It's still bent forward, but it's flat, so who cares. Bent the bars back too. I'll replace them... at a later date.

    I did notice my 'previous-owners home-made' skid plate (sheet metal) took a hell of a beating. No less than 3 good dents in it.

    And the little spring in my shifter isn't working right either.
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    Jeesh, to sum all that up... I had a great ride beating the shit out of my WRR yesterday!
  17. indypup

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    I still have my OEM foot pegs after replacing them with pivot pegz. I also have my OEM shift lever after replacing it with one from Driven Racing. I carry it as a spare though. Let me know if you are interested in them..
  18. buildit

    buildit Guns, bikes and Bows

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    Looks like you just need to feed the end back thru to load the spring again. Had the same thing happen with the KLR.
  19. Mikef5000

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    Did that, several times. It holds till I push the thing in a couple times, then it pops back out into the position you see here. I'm thinking there used to be a 90 degree angle on both ends, and it snapped off the one side? Now it won't stay put.

    I'm not too worried about it.
  20. MeefZah

    MeefZah Curmudgeonly

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    +1, also curious. :ear