advice for truing a spoked gs front wheel

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by adam71, Nov 7, 2012.

  1. adam71

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    I have a 2007 R1200GS with spoked wheels.

    I've recently noticed a vibration in my handlebars when I am riding at about 25-30 mph. I put the bike on a pit bull front wheel fork stand, spun the wheel, and could see there is about a quarter inch side to side movement, as well as a small hop.

    I live in the East Bay Area (CA), and would like advice regarding wheel truing services in the area. If anyone can help me out, I'd greatly appreciate it!!

    (In a perfect world, I would be able to ride the bike into a shop for the service, instead of having to remove the wheel and ship it out...)

    Thanks in advance!!
    Adam
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  2. sk8rdi16

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    Looks like a job for Woody. :deal

    Save your time and ship them both out for a rework. I ended up spending a good bit with shipping and all but my GSA wheels were nearly square.
    Woody's Wheel Works he's got a question thread over in the vendors section.
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  4. adam71

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    Hey guys,

    Thanks for the advice. I've heard nothing but great things about Woody's. (Also heard about Buchanon's down in LA)

    I was hoping to find someone local, but like anything else...do it right the first time and get on with it. I'll be talking with Woody's.

    Thanks again,
    Adam
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  5. (I^2)R/746

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    You might want to ask Gerry at GP Frame and Wheel in Napa. I don't know if he does spokes but he did a killer job on my racebike rims after I crashed out. Good guy quality work.
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  6. adam71

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    Thanks, I will check into GP Frame and Wheel.
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    here....

    http://advwisdom.hogranch.com/Wisdom/OGSWTTv10.pdf

    but apparently it's all bullshit because I made a comment once about truing my own wheels and was immediately reminded by everyone that only Woody can true BMW wheels... yep.... ain't nobody else in the whole world should dare to try, cause nobody else has a chance of getting a useable wheel. contact Woody or else.... yep, even BMW can barely make one work. all said, Woody apparently does good work (and BTW he ain't the guy making the noise)
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  8. MJS

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    First, you need to check the inside tire bead with the tire off when checking for trueness (sp?) on these wheels. Also, per BMW the area on each side of the weld (something like 45 degrees) should not be measured.

    Woody is the master and Buchann's also. Not sure if Buchann's is still doing it though.

    FWIW, I sent my front wheel to Woody for truing cause it looked tweaked. Woody called to say it was within factory specs and did not need to be trued. Did I want him to send it back? Or, for a couple of bucks he can fill in the weld area and make the wheel true for its full circumference. I went that route and it was well worth the money. Really helps to eliminate vibration in the bars, even with a knobby IMHO.
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  9. Disco Dean

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    Of course anyone can true a BMW wheel - simple - a few grub screws loosened - nipple wrench - indicator and you are off and running.

    The question is how well you can true them or if you can get them straight at all!

    The BMW rims are notoriously difficult to true and some might say almost impossible without a proper jig. Due to the unorthodox design.

    One can "true" or straighten a standard rim due to its design - with the spokes.... The BMW rims to be properly straightened need to be disassembled - then straightened with a large press and surface plate - then re-laced and tightened to spec on a purpose built jig... Have you seen pics of the jig? It is huge.

    Which is what Woody has. Along with a multitude of experience and talent in his shop.

    I routinely tear down my engines, build up race bikes, fabricate my frames and ports and etc etc etc... but once I researched the damn BMW rims and the process involved (and despite my pride which is vast + my vanity) I said not even worth a try. I think what all the posts have said in this forum - is truing yourself is just not worth the downtime and hassle and potential of having to send them out anyway.

    Woody and his staff are your men.
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  10. adam71

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    Thank you, guys. Woody's it is. I appreciate all the advice!!
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  11. sk8rdi16

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    Just make sure you don't send them just before a big rallye, ie BMW MOA. Doh, took quite a bit to get my wheels back!
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  12. Toyanvil

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    Woody's is the only one, even Buchann's will not do a BMW wheel.
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    This is interesting. Significantly reduced vibration? I'm new to my high mile GS and am suprised at the hand numbing vibration I get on long trips. Somehow I expected the boxer motor to be smoother. Is this a possible reduction method? And if so how much? We are all on budgets....
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    There is an area on the rim where the rim is welded together that is out-of-round when compared with the rest of the wheel. The tire bead sits on this and will follow the shape of the rim. Woody will fill this area in and then grind the area so the circumference of the rim where the tire sits is concentric all the way around. Don't remember the price but it wasn't much IIRC.
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    Thanks! I checked his site out looks like he fixes spokes as well. Mine aren't broken but the PO was less than stellar on cleaning and they are rusted to hell (WTF was BMW thinking here anyway? Stainless please....). Anyways I'll give him a ring and see about doing a relace and balance. Might just be the trick to get rid of that numbness in my hands halfway through the tank.
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  16. adam71

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    The serviced wheels were sent back to me and I remounted the tires/wheels to the bike. The difference is obvious. The better than new wheels have a larger gauge spoke and look badass.

    Although the service and shipping weren't cheap, it was well worth it. Woody's did a great job!

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    Wheel Porn. Nice. And when you say not cheap, what is that in $USD?
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  18. adam71

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    Here is the breakdown from Woody's to service both of my rims:

    Wheel unlace: $30 each
    Wheel lace and true: $150 each
    Straighten rim: $50 each
    Stainless Steel spoke sets: $250 each
    Return shipping: $57.36

    Total Labor: $460
    Total Parts: $500

    Out the door: $1017.36

    It's a lot of money, but way cheaper than replacement. I can totally feel the difference it made as compared to before. I'm a happy customer.
    Hope this helps.

    ~Adam
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  19. rdwalker

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    I may be late to this party... but: shouldn't you have sent your wheels to Woody's ???!

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    :wink:

    By the way, for lurkers here who may be getting a sticker shock from your post: the customer may not necessarily pay as much. Woody only charges (and performs) work that is needed.

    A couple of seasons ago, I was suspecting wheel damage and sent it to his shop. It was found to be true, no work needed. It was returned nicely cleaned and the cost was in $150 range as I recall.

    Meaning: another endorsement of Woody's!

    (FWIW, I found that the wobble at the time was caused by a brand new, yet faulty, tire.)

    Robert.
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    I did my own for my 1100GS. Bought new spokes,set screws and nipples, blasted the hubs and rims, powdercoated them black, put them back together by a pattern...very carefully. Brought them up to torque and set the screws, better than new. Have about $250 and 4 hours in them.:norton
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