Advice requested on next bike

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by mtnbikeboy, Oct 11, 2012.

  1. mtnbikeboy

    mtnbikeboy Been here awhile

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    First off, if this is the wrong forum, please move this post.

    So, my '89 TA was stolen about 1 month ago 300 miles after I had spent 2 yrs assembling it from tubs of parts. :cry:pissed I have been thinking about which bike to get next and have decided on the following options. I would like to stay below $3k, and the lower I go the more insurance money I have left over for farkles. I would like to have something that I can at least dream about riding on the TAT, but this bike will be a daily commuter. The wisdom of the asylum is requested and appreciated.

    KLR650
    Pros
    Lighter than TA
    Parts/Farkles readily available

    Cons
    Not as good on slab

    DR650
    Pros
    Lighter than TA & KLR
    Wife has one
    Good aftermarket

    Cons
    No windshield stock
    Stock seat sucks for long trips
    Small Fuel tank

    XR650R
    Pros
    Streetable in TX
    Proven offroad pedigree
    Fast
    Have a spare set of forks on hand

    Cons
    Kickstart only!
    No windshield stock
    Harder to mount farkles due to dirtbikeishness
    Apparently likes to eat rear tires
    Short maintenance intervals


    TransAlp
    Pros
    Unique
    Smooth V-Twin
    Very familiar with assembly
    Already have XR650 Forks to put on
    I liked the one I had

    Cons
    Would require a fly and ride to obtain
    Heaviest
    Plastics expensive and hard to find
    Less aftermarket/ Stock parts harder to find

    I believe I have hit most of the high points. I have ridden my TA and my wife's DR so I know how they feel. A friend is going to let me ride her KLR and I'm working on finding an XR to test ride. It will be about a month or so until I have the insurance money, so I have plenty of time to research and think about this. Thanks for your help.

    Sorry for the format. I had it all spaced out into a chart & vBulletin deleted all my extra spaces.

    Tim
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  2. DAKEZ

    DAKEZ Long timer

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    Get the DR 650 and make it into the bike you want. You will NOT be disappointed.:deal
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  3. ride4321

    ride4321 Long timer

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    For about $500 you can fix the cons on the DR650, I did.
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  4. crofrog

    crofrog Long timer

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    I'd get the XR650R that motor is addicting and it's got the best suspension for off-road. The motor makes at least 10hp more than either one of those other bikes.

    Add an e-start kit from baja designs and call it a day.

    As to it's eating rear tires, that should be a pro.

    Not to mention the lightest:
    KLR: 435 wet
    DR: 367 wet
    XR: 300 wet


    Get some supermoto wheels for around town and you'll have more fun than you thought was possible. Although you might end up getting arrested.
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  5. scottrnelson

    scottrnelson Team Orange

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    Why is the XR650L not on your list?

    Better suspension for off road use and you have the electric start.
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  6. Pantah

    Pantah Red Sox Nation

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    I've done a few parts of the TAT out west and most of the CDR. I don't think you want a true windshield. A flyscreen works well enough for me, plus a sheepskin buttpad is a good thing. You'll need a soft luggage system and can't avoid a bigger tank, though. I think you'll want about 200 miles range to do most of the stuff out west.

    I vote the Suzuki.
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  7. jules083

    jules083 Long timer

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    I have a XR650R, and recently acquired a 2005 KLR in a trade. If I could only have one, I would opt for something in the middle. The XR is a blast to ride, but commuting sucks. The KLR is a great commuter and backroad bike, not the greatest off-road.

    I'm voting DR based on what I've read. Plus your wife has one, so that's a pretty big bonus I think. Parts interchange if needed, swap bikes if needed, farkles fit both bikes for testing purposes, etc.
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  8. DirtyOldMan

    DirtyOldMan Long timer

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    I'm not finding this e-start kit on B/D website, got a link?
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  9. mtnbikeboy

    mtnbikeboy Been here awhile

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    According to some information on other forums, it's no longer offered.

    Thanks for all the comments so far. I'm actually rather torn on whether to get another TA or not. I kind of like the rare bike thing, though I wouldn't keep it original, so maybe I shouldn't be allowed to touch a nicer one than what mine was.

    The DR definitely feels snappier than what the TA did, but I don't know that actual acceleration was that different. I think I like the idea of the XR, but I am worried I would get tired of it as a commuter. I'm not sure why the XRL didn't make the list. I think I was thinking either go all the way to the XR, or get another TA if I stayed w/ Big Red. I'm a very analytic person so I can tend to overthink some things (like which bike to buy). Hopefully I will get a chance to ride all of them before I make a decision.

    Any and all additional input is appreciated.
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  10. Kommando

    Kommando Long timer

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    The DR can be made a hell of a lot "snappier" pretty easily too. Just open up the intake and exhaust, then swap in a flat-slide pumper carb...like an FCR39 or a TM40. Gear it with 1-3 more teeth on the back sprocket when it's time for new cogs. It'll be considerably peppier than stock.

    If you want to go even more drastic, you can add a big-bore or hi-comp piston, big-valve head, port and polish, and a stage 2 cam. 50+ WHP is getting more and more common on DR builds. Tuning the suspension can make the bike more responsive too.

    Another plus...It's nice having the same model of bike on trips. You only really need 1 set of tools, and some spares don't have to be doubled either. You can also troubleshoot with a ready supply of known functioning parts.
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  11. It'sNotTheBike

    It'sNotTheBike Banned

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    You are providing information which is inaccurate for an ever-increasing number of states in the US.

    The XR650R was NEVER certified as street legal. The Feds are using a VIN database
    to detect motorcycles which have been registered when the law, if adhered to, would have prohibited
    such registration. Bikes which lack a VIN which correlates with EPA and DOT certification
    will not be street legal in a growing number of states, and no kit from Baja Designs will
    change this.

    I just love advice from people like you, who have no idea what they are talking about.
    What you wrote will lead some people into a mess of legal hassles which cannot be resolved,
    if they are foolish enough to believe your erroneous information, and they will end up with
    a bike which cannot be used legally on the road.

    Best to buy a bike that was street legal from the manufacturer, and avoid trying to
    beat the system. If you don't believe what I wrote above, spend some time on Google and
    ask the people at your local DMV. We are in the 21st century now, and computers
    are going to make gaming the system impossible for the average person. So the
    XR650R will be a trailer-only bike, which is not what most people want when they are
    in search of a dual sport or enduro bike.



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  12. crofrog

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    In what states does the federal goverment have anything to do with vechile registration?

    Oh because I've never ever seen any street plated XR's running.

    99.9% of the time, if you get a bike with a title you're good to go.

    Maybe you live in California or some other state with crazy retarded vechile laws.
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  13. thunderkat59

    thunderkat59 Cooter on a scooter

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    My DR was one of two bikes I kick myself for getting rid of. I did Dual Sport competitions on mine so I put on a bigger tank, bash plate and pipe and higher bars, lower front sprocket. it was a monster in the dirt and on the pavement. The vibration was sort of disconcerting but riding knobs on the street with that torque was soooooo much fun. Powerslides galore.

    Why did I ever get rid of this cornfed bikesquatch ?!?!? *sNiFfLe* :cry

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  14. 35xj

    35xj Been here awhile

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    have you looked at the husky 610/630's? pretty close to your price range, and a pretty damn good bike to boot!
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  15. Bar None

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    Quit your crying and go get another DR650 if was so wonderful. It is not a rare bike. Plenty for sale every where.
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  16. Royal Tiger

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    You left off better bikes to focus on the most common (minus the Trans Alp) and then say you like rare bikes.

    How about these bikes:
    Husky
    Husaberg
    BMW
    KTM
    Beta
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  17. der_saeufer

    der_saeufer ?איפה בירה

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    If you're willing to go older and high-mileage, you can score a DL650 for under $3k with some patience. I paid less than $3k for my '04 last year and would do it again without a second thought.

    If you're going single-cylinder, I vote for the DR with an aftermarket tank, and this is coming from someone who owns a KLR. The DR is better off-road and not that much worse on-road except for its lack of fuel. Add more gas and the DR is clearly the better bike if you ride a fair bit of dirt.
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  18. mtnbikeboy

    mtnbikeboy Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the input so far. The struggle I'm having is whether to buy a bike for the riding I WANT to do, or one for the riding I ACTUALLY do. I was mostly satisfied with my TA, and had plans to make it better (XRR forks, etc). The TA was definitely more comfortable around town compared to the DR. I had it on some dirt roads and felt it handled well, but I never got the chance to play in much dirt before it was stolen.

    I did look at KTMs but they seemed to be all more than I wanted to spend. I forget which model it was, but there were a lot more of the SM version but not many of the EXC version. They're not as common around here as they are other places. I'll have to get on SearchTempest later and look at Husa's and Husky's.
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  19. gmk999

    gmk999 ____ as a Rotax

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    It's time to replace my Funduro.. But I'm looking more at the supermoto's.Bigger horsepower, less weight,six speeds. Some even ride by wire.
    I'm between a Husky 510 or an Aprillia dorso 750.
    The downside to these is range. but I'm in New england where there is gas available every five miles or so. Even in the sticks.
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  20. O.C.F.RIDER

    O.C.F.RIDER Loose nut behind h/bars

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    OP.........if you like odd-balls like the TA, look for an KTM LC4. Plenty of 'em around and for not a whole lot of $$$$. And your wife will LOVE riding it to. :evil:knary

    :lol3
    Chris
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