Aerostich R3 Made in Vietnam??

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by YIDDISH COWBOY, Dec 6, 2017.

  1. old scoot

    old scoot Been here awhile

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    Duluth is an interesting town. I don't want to be there in the winter but rode thru there last summer and it's a pretty neat place. I don't want to get into politics but all that might change some with the new tax code, lets hope.
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  2. justrider

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    I worked for Ford motor company for 15 years. I was a seat builder a sewing machine operator. I spent almost five years in the seat build and sewing operations. Our sewing operations were the best in the world. We beat out every single luxury manufacture BMW ,Lexus, Jaguar ,Daimler Benz ,Cadillac. In 1997 Toyota came to our plant to bench mark our entire operation. The USA made the best textiles on the planet.

    What happened? Fucking NAFTA. Were do you think all that equipment came from that found its way to Vietnam. When the first few companies like First gear and Hein Gerick went to Vietnam there stuff was garbage.

    So don't think for one minute that they are better than what our labor force could make. Our jobs were given away. So thank god Andy has kept as much here as he can. And I will continue to support them as long as I can still ride
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  3. pne

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    Vietnam is the go-to for textiles, if it makes you feel any better I have spent a lot of time in that country and travelled it north to south. they have some tight control over counterfeit goods although its true you can find some fake north face and nike stuff, they are very obvious fakes that you can tell the moment you pick them up. Much to my dismay I could not find any "made on the nightshift on the same production line" goods despite searching high and low. I would love to pick up Klim or Nike shoes for pennies on the dollar.

    As for giving jobs away, that's just the nature of the economy right now. Maybe it's a millennial thing but I don't have any preference to supporting my own country or buying domestic goods. The stuff we make in Canada is usually garbage, poor quality and workmanship, it's embarrassing really. Put some made in Canada furniture beside the overseas stuff and the overseas stuff is better. There's no pride or workmanship, just overpaid and entitled workers throwing together crap.
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  4. Contevita

    Contevita Cigar Adventurer

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    I wish they still made that suit.
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  5. swiss-happy

    swiss-happy Rubberburner Joe

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    Don't pay top dollar for something which was originally made in USA and they were made good...and then now they outsourced the manufacture to an overseas location such as Vietnam or China or Romania.

    Unless they give a greatly reduced price which is same as others.

    Aerostich should have kept their US workers and their traditional service and workmanship. That's their only selling point.

    Don't out up with this BS.

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  6. CRIAKLR

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    So what "Made in America" gear should we buy?

    I too wish everything was still made in America. But that ship sailed long ago. I look for the best quality for the dollar. I don't care if it's made in Indiana or India.

    As has been posted several times Aerostich makes phenomenal gear. They have a long and well-earned reputation for both quality of product and quality of service. So I will definitely continue to put up with this "BS".

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  7. swiss-happy

    swiss-happy Rubberburner Joe

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    As long as their "Service" is still same...then all is ok.

    I also think they are the best amongst the rest.

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  8. justrider

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    Aerostich is not a large factory. Its and old brick building with a small number of employees. They are not nearly as big as people think. They offer excellent quality and craftsmanship. I will be buying a new road crafter later this year. 20160930_140306.jpg
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  9. CRIAKLR

    CRIAKLR Frosty

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    Their service is excellent.

    They prove excellent quality + excellent service beats great marketing + fashionable.

    I'll admit that I think my Darien gear is ugly compared to Klim gear. But the quality of the Darien exceeds even the very good quality of Klim.....and I own 2 Klim jackets and a pair of Klim pants.....which are also made in Asia.

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  10. Tall Man

    Tall Man Priest, Temple of Syrinx

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    In every catalog and online photo of their garment production area that I've seen, each one illustrates that Aerostitch employs seamstresses that appear to be regular Americans. Certainly every employee with whom I've spoke on the phone sounds like a native speaker.

    For us, by us. Long may they endure.
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  11. CRIAKLR

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    As noted by justrider....They are a small company with a small number of American employees. Most of their Aerostich branded products are sewn right there in Duluth, MN. Like so many other companies, in order to stay competitive they have sourced some of their production in Vietnam. I have clients who do quite a bit of business in Vietnam, and in a couple cases, have invested in plants in Vietnam. As a general statement, they are hard working, conscientious, detail-oriented people. I cannot blame Andy for doing all that he must to remain viable and profitable. One more time.....as long as the quality of product AND quality of service is held to the same high standards, I will happily buy from Aerostich. And one more time......I do wish that everything I purchased was made in the USA. I have clients and partners who strive to remain competitive in the global marketplace, but they have been shackled by massive regulatory requirements, higher tax rates, and increasing labor rates (which are NO fault of the employees). As a business owner I can tell you firsthand how incredibly frustrating it is to compete on an uneven playing field. I could type for days.....I'll spare you and my carpal tunnel. Cheers!
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  12. swiss-happy

    swiss-happy Rubberburner Joe

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    Looks like my next purchase will be Aerostich

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  13. S21FOLGORE

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    When Hlelimot gloves were still in operation in Fremont, CA, Helmut showed me his workshop where the gloves were manufactured, leather suits were repaired / altered.
    (He did pretty much the same thing as shown in this video when I was buying Hi-5 gloves.)


    There were 5 - 6 Vietnamese ladies operating heavy duty sewing machines and making gloves.
    They had been working for him for many years.

    His gloves were made in Fremont, CA, US of A,
    by Vietnamese ladies.
    The quality of his gloves were excellent.
    His customer service was excellent.
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  14. Bruincounselor

    Bruincounselor North Plains Drifter

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    To my knowledge Aerostitch has kept the workforce. What I know of Andy is that he will do what he can do to keep local control of production and still remain in business. He isn't getting rich for sure. As others have pointed out it is a small business in an old building.
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  15. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers Oh, no, there goes Piaggio. Go, go, Godzilla!

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    Quality is quality and you pay for it dearly in most cases.

    Made in America - Aerostich, Justin Boots and Redwing boots. All great products made in America, with price point options made elsewhere. Some even have subsidiary brands completely or mostly foreign manufactured “Irish Setter boots” are one example.

    Quality service and repairable/rebuildable are actually qualities I look for.

    But alas, cobblers and seamstresses/tailors are a dying art.

    I’ve owned a one piece Roadcrafter long enough to have it altered due to shrinkage or rider expansion.

    Retired, stopped commuting and sold it. The price almost covered my new Darien Pants. I bought a Roadcrafter jacket custom. So, in 26 years I’ve spent less than $1600 on touring/commuting MC gear. And probably twice that the 20 years of riding and bargain hunting before that.

    I’ve bought cheap gear, I’ve bought quality gear.

    Quality wins almost every time. Quality and customer service wins every time.

    With this big caveat. The next years model may be WORSE. (Fieldshear)

    Vote with your $.


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  16. justrider

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    All of my racing gloves were made by Helimot.
    Reg Pridemore showed me a pair at Road America while doing a track day there back in the mid 90's
    Awesome gloves. Held together after two high speed slides.
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  17. justrider

    justrider Been here awhile

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    I am a dealer for Wolfman luggage. I have been for 11 years. Eric has the same principles as Andy at Aerostich. Wolfman is made here in Longmont Colorado. Eric took his college classes in pattern making in Colorado. He makes the best most durable luggage on the planet.

    In 11 years I have not sent one item back as defective. My Timber wolf tank bag is 11 years old and it still has the original zipper pulls.
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  19. Tall Man

    Tall Man Priest, Temple of Syrinx

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    Don't say that around anyone who uses Mosko Moto gear. Those guys are zealots.

    Wolfman fanboy here, by the way. Fender bag, tank bag, bottle holsters, saddlebags. I'm all in. I wish I had a sticker or 3, though.
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  20. justrider

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    PM me I will send you some swag
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