Aerostitch Roadcrafter

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by Jeff B, Nov 21, 2012.

  1. Jeff B

    Jeff B Socially Awkward

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    Anyone here have experience w/the 2pc Roadcrafter?

    My "try" suit arrived from Stitch yesterday and I'm having a hell of a time getting the pants to jacket zipper started. When I'm lucky enough to get it engaged, it is awfully difficult to zip around. [I put some silicone on it and this helped some]

    The pants are prolly a size to big and I'm thinking this is part of the problem. The pants zipper is a longer and bunched up path than the jacket zipper.

    I really like the basic construction of this suit and want it to work, but unless I can resolve this issue I'll have to try another plan.

    My old suit is a Revit Dakar and it took about a 5 minute learning curve to master zipping the top to the bottom.
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  2. StuartV

    StuartV Motorcyclist

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    I had a 2 pc RC for years. What you described sounds normal. It should get easier over time. Also, if you are zipping it together before you put it on, that may be part of the problem, too. Try putting on the jacket and pants and then zipping them together.

    Personally, I finally got too tired of the fit and got a 1 pc RC instead. I like that much better. But then I got tired of how hot the Roadcrafters are and got a 2 pc Motoport mesh Kevlar suit and now that's all I wear until it gets down to around freezing or colder.
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  3. Jeff B

    Jeff B Socially Awkward

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    Thank you for your response.

    My intention was for this to be my cold weather suit. I figured that a 1pc would be easier to get in and out of, but I don't wear jeans underneath, only fleece or polyprop underware. So going into restaurants and such I thought the 2pc would be more convenient, cause I'd just leave the pants on.

    When stopped at a destination I know I can fit the top in one pannier, the bottoms in the other. I don't think a 1pc w/ the big pads would fit in one of my Givis'.

    Yes, I've have both jackets and pants on when trying to zip them together. I'm sure my belly does not help matters either.
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  4. V-Tom

    V-Tom Been here awhile

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    I use a two piece and am very happy with it.

    IIRC there are a couple of "belts" that secure with velcro on the sides of the jacket or pants to tighten it up. I suspect these are snugged up right now and that may be why the zippers appear to be different lengths.

    As far as putting it in cases: my two piece can fit inside of a GIVI E41 sidecase when it has all thev normal pads and that back pad. You don't need to take it apart, just make sure the elbo and knee pads are spooned together when folding.

    I alway wear something under my Roadcrafter. It goes off in seconds so this is very convenient. If you are going to keep the pants on when stopped you should probably look at getting the suspenders.

    ..Toim
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  5. cluster148

    cluster148 Adventurer

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    3,possibly 400,000 miles on 2 piece Aerostitches.Never zip them together.Always had the zip on "suspender" option.Works great for me.
    Allows to take off coat without taking off pants.But you get lots of questions when you go into restaurants" How's the fishing?"
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  6. xrcris

    xrcris Been here awhile

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    This topic must be fate - my balls are soaked (again) after my commute to work and I was thinking of starting my own thread just to vent....:dog

    I don't have a full two piece, just the pants w/ bib - honestly for the $$ they suck. The zippers leak like a fucking sieve and the velcro sucks. The zipper pull actually fell off both leg zippers too. They are around 4 years old.

    I reallllly want to like Aerostich (since they're an American co.), but the Joe Rocket pants I had before were better. For comparison, I've got a Teknic jacket that I've been wearing every day for the past six years that has held up better.
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  7. ph0rk

    ph0rk Doesn't Care

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    Are you the first owner of the pants? Most of the "two piece leaks less" stories are referencing the whole two-piece, so if you have a different jacket that lets water hit at a different place on the pants... well there you are.

    FWIW, I have a one-piece with the RiRi zips and I haven't had a leak other than at the pit vents (which were wide open in a downpour, duh).


    I've also never had a leak with my AD1 pants, either.


    Frankly I'd like to swap my 1pc for a 2pc, but thats more about vanity than anything else (yes yes, vanity and aerostich don't mix, but oh well).
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  8. xrcris

    xrcris Been here awhile

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    First owner - "if you have a different jacket that lets water hit at a different place on the pants... well there you are." is just fucking bullshit. The zippers suck. They broke and they leak. If you never ride in the rain, the pants are great, but when I'm ready to replace these, which will be sooner rather than later based on what's falling apart, it will be with something other than Aerostich.
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  9. V-Tom

    V-Tom Been here awhile

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    It's odd how many people have very different experiences.

    My Two Piece is three years old and has about 110,000 miles on. I commute in almost every possible weather condition including heavy rain plus do road trips and the zippers have never leaked. (did about 40,000 miels last year.) If water gets in it generally is at the neck if I haven't snugged things in.

    I have had a couple of pulls break but a split ring in them took care of it until I could get new zipper pulls.

    On the other hand my Joe Rocket pants barely lasted the first season (two zippers broke.) My Tecnik Jacket is okay but showed heavy wear after the first year and generaly was never as comfy in warm weather as my Roadcrafter.

    ..Tom
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  10. xrcris

    xrcris Been here awhile

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    yeah, I wonder how much it depends on what you're riding? IE some bikes have better/different weather protection? The reason I bought the Roadcrafter pants was because the stiching holding the zipper to the Joe Rocket pants split after two years of use - obviously not a stunning endorsement of their quality, but they never leaked and for a $100, I'm not complaining. But the JR pants had the zipper on the outside of each leg so whatever waterproofing material was used, was unbroken through the crotch. This is vs. the zipper that starts in the crotch on the RC - on my VFR the water hits my jacket then runs down and leaks in the crotch. FWIW, my Teknic jacket has never ever leaked a drop, it is entirely waterproof, there is a flap secured with velcro that totally covers the front zipper. It's on it's last legs, general wear on the inside liner, the adjusting straps tore, and the some of the stiching on the velcro is gone, but no one part failed to the point where it had to be replaced. I'm pretty happy with the time & performance I've gotten out of it.
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  11. bomber60015

    bomber60015 Anatomically Correct

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    my two piece stich is still going strong after 15 years . . . . . the zipper between the jacket and pants was a lil tough to begin with, but eased with use . . . . the fact that the pants and jacket are the same size might have something to do with that.

    if the zippers are trashed on your pants, get em fixed, would be miy advice. then, try and figure out why they failed in the first place . . .every company makes errors, but it's how they stand up after that separates the good from the rest.

    Full disclosure, after sealing the seams and zipeprs per Aero's instructions, I can ride through 6 hour frog stranglers dry . . . .

    YMMV, of course.
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  12. sportbiker929

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    spraying silicone on the zippers helps immensely!
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  13. ph0rk

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    If you bought roadcrafter pants to wear as standalone riding pants on purpose, you made a mistake - the AD1s and Darien pants would have been better. The whole point of the RC (1 or 2pc) is fast in/out, hence the inner-thigh zip. That said, my 1pc hasn't ever leaked in the southern frog-stranglers we get down here, either on a bike with good wind protection or on a naked bike (other than when I have left the pit zips open). It does have the new zips, however.

    I've had a number of their products in my hands, and they don't seem to be in the habit of shipping crappy products. I wish I could say the same about other manufacturers. Compared to the zippers on olympia or rev'it gear, the stuff on my RC is very robust. So far, my RC is the only piece of gear that hasn't had a "WP" zipper leak - that isn't to say one won't leak eventually, but if you absolutely must have waterproof, a zipper is a pretty stupid thing to have. With enough water and pressure, a zipper will leak. Zippers are convenient, though, so it is an acceptable risk.

    Aerostich does repair zippers. If you can convince them they failed because of a defect I'm sure they'd take care of you. You can even send them pictures before shipping the pants themselves.
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    xrcris Been here awhile

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    Not according to Aerostich:

    "either part can be worn separately." http://www.aerostich.com/jackets-pants/roadcrafter/roadcrafter-pants.html

    The zippers haven't "failed", they just leak - they've always leaked. There's nothing to fix except the design. The pulls broke off both legs within two years, (the zipper on my Teknic jacket is still intact after even longer use) but they still "zip".

    The OP asked how they work, glad you like yours and I'm not into a pissing match about whether they are good or not - but for me and my money they suck.
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  15. squish

    squish Out of the office.

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    It sounds like xrchris feels like the roadcrafter should be waterproof something Aerostitch has never clamied it was.
    Bummer he has had such a bad experience with it.

    Following aerostichs advice in maintaining the suit helps a lot.
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  16. V-Tom

    V-Tom Been here awhile

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    If you like the pants otherwise you might look at getting the new waterproof zippers installed by Aerostich.

    When Aerostich says the "Can be worn separately" I take the meaning to be similar to saying that a wrench "Can be" used as a hammer (at least when talking about the pants.) Sure it will work but not really the best way to use them. Having said that at least one friend of mine seems to always wear his pants separate using the suspenders.

    Also I always thought that the Roadcrafter pants setup are overpants while Darien and AD1 are more separate riding pants that are not meant as overpants. That shouldn't make any difference in waterproofness and durability though.

    ..Tom
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  17. Jeff B

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    Going into this purchase I'm aware that some have had leakage at the crotch zipper. When seated on the bike the bunched up material can form a dam that won't let water drain out. The easiest path is now thru the zipper. Someone had told me that after awhile it become 2nd nature to pull it tight every now and then to drain.
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    I called Aerostitch today and told them my dilemma.

    She told me that before she leaves today she will pack me a pair of pants the next size down, a bib converter to match and a smaller back armor pad for the jacket. [I ordered the beefiest armor available].

    She said this way I'll have both size pants to compare at the same time. I thought that was pretty good service considering that I'll at one point possess more merchandise than I paid for.

    They are also paying for all the shipping. So far I'm impressed w/the service.
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  19. Rinty

    Rinty Been here awhile

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    Jeff:

    These are great suits but they are an acquired taste. Like yours, my RC pants were too big for my waist, and the Aerostich girl told me they're supposed to be that way so that you can wear layers under them. The only way you can wear the pant without the jacket is to buy the zip on bib which has the suspenders, and which may not appeal to some riders.

    But the main issue I had was that I felt like the Pillsbury Doughboy wearing it, so I sent it back, no issues.
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  20. Snowbound

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    I have the two piece Roadcrafter. I wore it zipped together for awhile. Then I got the sport rider insert . Then I got the suspenders (they didn't hold up ). I had to replace a couple of zipper heads (never again , let Aerostitch do it). I got the velcro replaced locally . The top showed some shrinkage after several washings . I have the top for sale , keeping the pants ,for now.
    I have a Ralley 3 suit that fits and preforms it's function . Not made to go over clothes like the Aerostich .
    I also have started getting into Klim gear for offroad .
    The Aerostich is a good commute to work suit (if it still fit ) .
    In my humble opinion.
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