Africa Twin Premature Front Fork Failure (Current Owners and Prospective New owners Must Read)

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by bumbee800, Sep 1, 2017.

  1. inverted

    inverted Berwyn rocks

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    saw a guy on an AT in the Yukon last summer, I knew I would one day have one. hope this is resolved by that time
  2. Big Willy

    Big Willy Gen. Italia

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    They are a fantastic bike and I'm sure you won't regret it.
    The forks are great in their standard form, they just need to address the wear issue.
    I'm certain that even if Honda don't come to the party, a couple of tweaks and a reanodise will sort the problems. Weigh that up against other bikes if you wish but know that the Honda donk is a gem:thumb
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  3. inverted

    inverted Berwyn rocks

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    it was posted that the forks were "from the shelf" at Honda, which bikes are these same forks from and have they had similar issues? forgive me if it was already mentioned in this thread.
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    Big Willy Gen. Italia

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    Not exactly off the shelf but many think they are a copy of the forks from a much earlier model Honda. Whether they are or not doesn't deter me as only so much can be changed on a fork and it is usually the damping. They still need an outer and an inner tube and bushes to reduce friction.
    I wouldn't let that in itself deter anyone as they still work remarkably well. I would assume that they are not an exact copy and something has been changed that propagates wear
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  5. inverted

    inverted Berwyn rocks

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    got it, thanks. I thought maybe it was an issue with the weight of the AT compared to what they may have been designed for, say like a CRF 450X or similar. I have one and beat the snot out of it with no fork issues. or any other issues for that matter.
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  6. craighkzn

    craighkzn Been here awhile

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    I reckon they just rehashed the CBR600 fork internals with longer tubes...look very similar...
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  7. Motociclo

    Motociclo Without motion, nothing.

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    Very similar internals to early 90's cr125,250,500.
    Wear parts are common to them and many other Showa shod bikes.
    Outer tubes look nothing like MX bikes I quoted though.
    The 20mm cartridge they use has parts interchangeable with many bikes.
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  8. twinrider

    twinrider pass the catnip

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    This is where we disagree. Many thousands of ATs have been sold but the number of reported cases of stiction — which prompted those owners to inspect their forks — is still a tiny percentage of the total. So while I acknowledge there is a possibility that my bike one day might suffer the fork problem, I don't feel I have to pull my perfectly working forks apart now to state that they are working perfectly.
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  9. Dillo

    Dillo All bark, no bite

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    That's your perogative, just like smokers aren't required to get CT scans. Just don't go around telling people they shouldn't check their forks because you don't want to check yours.
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  10. nk14zp

    nk14zp Been here awhile

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    Would it help both with diagnostics and getting Honda's attention to send the fork oil you drain out to an oil analysis lab? This would also document things for a warranty claim maybe.
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    twinrider pass the catnip

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    I never said people shouldn't check their forks. I said I didn't feel I had to pull mine apart and inspect them before stating in this thread that they're working fine. After 22 years of riding daily and owning about 60 bikes, I can tell when forks are functioning properly.
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  12. mcmann

    mcmann Motorcycle ADV enthusiast

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  13. chrshale

    chrshale Been here awhile

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    As far as I can tell the OP of this thread did not and does not own an AT. The only thing this thread is doing is chasing its tail.

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    zgfiredude RMAR

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    Ladies and Gentlemen, STOP!

    If all you want to do is poke someone else with a sharp stick, then post elsewhere.

    The facts are these:
    The Africa Twin is a popular new model bike.
    The bike has forks.
    Some people have experienced "unusual" wear in their fork internals.
    They want to alert others including the manufacturer to a potential problem or issue with this wear.

    That is all.

    No one cares about your opinion as to whether or not aliens landed at Area 51, or ANYTHING ELSE!

    Try decaf coffee, or prunes, or midol and get on with your lives.
  15. Dillo

    Dillo All bark, no bite

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    Collaborate and listen?
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    mcmann Motorcycle ADV enthusiast

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    Many of us look at potential problem threads like this as a learning experience . . . PM'ing ideas etc.

    I would clean and wipe down my mountain bike fork tubes after every ride with silicone lubricant as a precaution . . . I have had great success with this prevention etc.

    Nothing wrong with fork tube PM ideas.

    https://www.wd40specialist.com/products/silicone-lubricant/
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  17. ballisticexchris

    ballisticexchris Long timer

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    Easy now partner, just trying to lighten up the doom and gloom that a few guys have over their forks.

    For those of you experiencing the stiction, have you thought of spinning the tubes to see if that helps?
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    MillennialFalcon Improvement starts with self

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  19. chrshale

    chrshale Been here awhile

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    Yep. It's been discussed.

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    Dillo All bark, no bite

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    Several inmates have tried it and it hasn't helped. The result is that now you have two wear spots on each fork leg.