Africa Twin Premature Front Fork Failure (Current Owners and Prospective New owners Must Read)

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by bumbee800, Sep 1, 2017.

  1. ex_MGB

    ex_MGB Been here awhile

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    ...so I bought another 4 years on my Honda warranty for a little under $500 the other day. Only have 3400 miles, no problems so far. See how it goes...
  2. Zave

    Zave ******

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    I don't know why it's so much more here they want 1200
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  3. ex_MGB

    ex_MGB Been here awhile

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    Thank you, you are making me feel better.:1drink

    It's a complicated machine, lots of external switches, so I thought the peace of mind was worth it. I searched on-line for my deal. I did not get roadside assistance. Seems most likely problems do not stop travel.

    $500 is a mere pittance in comparison to farkles, protection, panniers, spare parts/tires/tubes, tools and camping/riding gear I've purchased.
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  4. Stromcat

    Stromcat Been here awhile

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    So,what is the fix for damaged forks? Say I get my forks checked and find they are worn internally,what is the cheap repair or is it a case of changing forks for some other make and forking out lots of cash (sorry!).Just want to know how much this may cost me in the future.
  5. zgfiredude

    zgfiredude RMAR

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    Currently there are two paths.

    1. "Fix" the current forks.
    2. Swap Forks.

    1. This involves a full service, re-spring, re-valve (arguably) and either Hard Anodizing or Kashima coating the outer tube. Time will tell as to whether or not the improved coating eliminates the issue.

    2. The current fork of choice is from mid to late 2000s Yamaha YZs. Kayaba or KYB SSS forks or the immediate predecessor. This will require going to the high fender and a single front brake....not a fatal flaw, but perhaps not what you may want.

    That the the short version of the story. There is a lot more info in the thread to digest. Good reading.
  6. Kastenfrosch

    Kastenfrosch Adventurer

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  7. Zave

    Zave ******

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    There is the soon to be developed and sure to be expensive Ohlin fork replacement
  8. Kastenfrosch

    Kastenfrosch Adventurer

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  9. Zave

    Zave ******

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    A bargain lol but then again giving Honda 1200 for an extended warranty not knowing what you are going to get and will still have to revalve and spring anyway maybe it makes sense to put that approximate 1700 to much better suspension. I'm glad i have a few months to decide.
  10. MillennialFalcon

    MillennialFalcon Improvement starts with self

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    Even if I had $4k to spend for fixing a stiction and wear problem that shouldn't exist, it wouldn't be for "Road and Track" forks.
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  11. Zave

    Zave ******

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    I didn't read the "fine" print i wouldn't buy a road and track fork either
  12. Junglejeff1

    Junglejeff1 Long timer

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    May be stupid question but is a road and track fork not as good in some way.
  13. dmason

    dmason goofball

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    Where can I get it for under $500?
  14. ex_MGB

    ex_MGB Been here awhile

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    google or message me.
  15. Zave

    Zave ******

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    Don't know
  16. zgfiredude

    zgfiredude RMAR

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    In some small way, I wonder if Honda "designed" in a flaw in order to sell more extended warranties! LOL
  17. Pipe dreams

    Pipe dreams Adventurer

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    Two things.
    The cost to Honda to replace the flawed forks would be more than the revenue they receive for the warranty.
    Honda thus far is saying the wear is normal.
    This experience is why I passed on the extended warranty.
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  18. Zave

    Zave ******

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    How are the re anodized and the kashima coated forks working out?
  19. twinrider

    twinrider pass the catnip

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    Where are they saying that? They've already replaced the forks on some bikes.
  20. Motociclo

    Motociclo Without motion, nothing.

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    Nothing to report wear wise. Only got about 2000km on forks since Kashima coat.
    I think they feel a bit slicker than what they were from new.
    Got a few bigger rides coming up, so will hopefully rack the Km's up. Was going to check at 5000km, will leave to 10000km.