Africa Twin Premature Front Fork Failure (Current Owners and Prospective New owners Must Read)

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by bumbee800, Sep 1, 2017.

  1. zgfiredude

    zgfiredude RMAR

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    Currently there are two paths.

    1. "Fix" the current forks.
    2. Swap Forks.

    1. This involves a full service, re-spring, re-valve (arguably) and either Hard Anodizing or Kashima coating the outer tube. Time will tell as to whether or not the improved coating eliminates the issue.

    2. The current fork of choice is from mid to late 2000s Yamaha YZs. Kayaba or KYB SSS forks or the immediate predecessor. This will require going to the high fender and a single front brake....not a fatal flaw, but perhaps not what you may want.

    That the the short version of the story. There is a lot more info in the thread to digest. Good reading.
  2. Kastenfrosch

    Kastenfrosch Adventurer

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  3. Zave

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    There is the soon to be developed and sure to be expensive Ohlin fork replacement
  4. Kastenfrosch

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  5. Zave

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    A bargain lol but then again giving Honda 1200 for an extended warranty not knowing what you are going to get and will still have to revalve and spring anyway maybe it makes sense to put that approximate 1700 to much better suspension. I'm glad i have a few months to decide.
  6. MillennialFalcon

    MillennialFalcon Improvement starts with self

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    Even if I had $4k to spend for fixing a stiction and wear problem that shouldn't exist, it wouldn't be for "Road and Track" forks.
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  7. Zave

    Zave ******

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    I didn't read the "fine" print i wouldn't buy a road and track fork either
  8. Junglejeff1

    Junglejeff1 Long timer

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    May be stupid question but is a road and track fork not as good in some way.
  9. dmason

    dmason goofball

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    Where can I get it for under $500?
  10. ex_MGB

    ex_MGB Been here awhile

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    google or message me.
  11. Zave

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    Don't know
  12. zgfiredude

    zgfiredude RMAR

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    In some small way, I wonder if Honda "designed" in a flaw in order to sell more extended warranties! LOL
  13. Pipe dreams

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    Two things.
    The cost to Honda to replace the flawed forks would be more than the revenue they receive for the warranty.
    Honda thus far is saying the wear is normal.
    This experience is why I passed on the extended warranty.
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  14. Zave

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    How are the re anodized and the kashima coated forks working out?
  15. twinrider

    twinrider pass the catnip

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    Where are they saying that? They've already replaced the forks on some bikes.
  16. Motociclo

    Motociclo Without motion, nothing.

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    Nothing to report wear wise. Only got about 2000km on forks since Kashima coat.
    I think they feel a bit slicker than what they were from new.
    Got a few bigger rides coming up, so will hopefully rack the Km's up. Was going to check at 5000km, will leave to 10000km.
  17. Junglejeff1

    Junglejeff1 Long timer

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    20170811_101912.jpg I got lucky and they replaced mine.
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  18. Pipe dreams

    Pipe dreams Adventurer

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    Glad Honda replaced your forks.
    @ 5k miles they told me no dice.
    Admittedly its a tricky position for Honda.
    If it is bad coating on a batch they can replace and know they addressed the issue.
    On the other hand if all units are affected and they don't have a resolution then any replacement units will eventually fail again.
  19. Squily

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    Sorry mate, your profile is not very helpful. Where are you located? We know Honda USA have replaced several riders' fork tubes under warranty. Honda RSA wouldn't honour claims because they said the claimant voided the warranty by working on the bike and Honda Australia is 'investigating' and waiting for Honda Japan to say what's the go.
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  20. LeeGro

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    I replaced my fork seals, fork springs, and fork oil. After I got everything bolted back up on the bike the forks seem to be making a weird noise. Its almost like the bushings on the inside are rubbing along the metal causing a scraping noise. The weird thing is this did not happen when pumping the fork tubes when filling with oil. Only after putting in springs and mounting to bike did I hear the noise.

    What could cause this?