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Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by Bhart89, Nov 12, 2016.
Too bad Honda doesn't make the 1090. It'd be a great bike.
Dunno I am of two minds.
The AT certain appears to be a great bike.
....but that is based on review. Honda hasn't built anything since the RC51 that excited me....that includes the AT.
Some of that may be me, I will deal with issues to get the crazy, there isn't crazy in a Honda.
Might want to try it before you write it off. It won't win a drag race against a KTM 1190, but it will give it a run for its money on twisty roads. And it's great on dirt.
I really like the DCT, it's incredible tech that makes this great handling bike a blast to ride. You should try it some time.
Perhaps. But I am not buying another bike here in Japan. Nor do I want DCT, at all. I like the manual interface with the gearbox.
I love my DCT's manual mode while twisty strafing. Gives you full control of the shift points and it's so fast you can even swap cogs while cranked over mid-corner. No wonder it's banned in MotoGP.
Great on dirt too, frees up your left foot for more important things like dabbing and weighting the peg.
Then stuck traffic later that day heading home, back to automode.
I shift cranked over anyway.
The RC51 is a bad ass machine loved mine!!! The AT is defiantly a cool bike and not typical Honda of the last several years that's for sure defiantly took risks and I think it's paid off at least for me it has. It's very ktmish without the headaches.
Both bikes need maintenance, that's about it.
If you think you'll only find faults on ktm bikes you're a wee bit mistaken
Overweight, underpowered, boring to ride, crappy suspension, etc. Sounds like a honda to me
If they would pull out a modern XRR it would be neat, doubt that will ever happen though.
All the squabbling over who has the bigger twig just makes me laugh. If you like KTM, great! If you like Honda, great! You truly have to ride any bike to see what fits you best. I have owned KTM dirtbikes and they were great. I have owned a lot of Honda powersports and they were great. I own an AT and I love it and I came from a 2008 CBR1000RR and dont miss the HP at all! All it really comes down to at the end of the day is what feels best to YOU. The biased opinions of owners is going to be just that (I am guilty of it too), biased. Test, buy, ride, and be happy.
There could be a bit more competition in the segment of smaller "adv" bikes though - the trend seems to be towards more powerful and heavy machines.
You're welcome to argue, if you like
Edit: oh well, friday evening. to you guys.
Ok guys...test rode a new 1090 today...I have an AT....my observations:
KTM Suspension great ....Honda - too soft stock
Ktm power soft off the bottom...bit unresponsive - Honda feels more direct - better low down response
KTM kills the AT from 5000 rpm up...it's a rocket
KTM is hot.....not so comfy in the heat...AT is great
AT seat is more comfy, no heat issues
AT front brakes are way better than KTM..
KTM sounds rough (like a bag of bolts) - AT is like a sewing machine...
Overall, the KTM is a hooligan, the Honda is more civilized....if I was planning on riding across the continent, I'd take the Honda....just my 2c..
Luckily you already have one.
My Africa Twin is hands down a better bike than my 1190 ADV R ever was. Why? Unlike the KTM, the Honda just works. All the horsepower in the world doesn't mean shit if you don't have faith in your machine. Reliability is the ultimate luxury.
First off let me say that I'm not a brand loyal owner, I've had my share of Jap bikes...... I've never ridden the AT but I'd take either bike gladly, right now I'm on a 2012 - 990. Which BTW has proven to be very reliable with basic maintenance at 42,000 clicks now (I'll admit, I've spent some money on it but the motor has never been in pieces). I will say that I am an oil change and air filter nazi and I do use use the over priced stuff. Any bike (anything for that matter) if it's ridden off-road is going to require you to take your maintenance the extra mile.
Just one more than the other
Pls compare the maintenance schedule for both bikes
The 1090 isn't exactly an exc when it comes to servicing...